MSirmon Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 Dinosaur bone fossil from South East UTAH. KAIPAROWITS FORMATION. It is from the CRETACEOUS AGE. I am guessing a toe bone, hopefully from a tyrannosaur, but not married to that idea. Any ideas? 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordTrilobite Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 I'm thinking it's a Hadrosaur toe. Probably first phalange. Doesn't look much like Tyrannosaur to me as it's too fat in the middle bit. Nice piece. Gryposaurus or Parasaurolophus would be possible candidates. So I would label it as indeterminate Hadrosaur. Since Hadrosaur toes are all nearly identical here are some examples of Hadrosaur toes. Examples of Saurolophine Edmontosaurus. And an example of the Lambeosaurine Amurosaurus 4 Olof Moleman AKA Lord Trilobite Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby Rico Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 I have a Hadrosaur toe bone and it does look very similar. Nice find congratulations 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MSirmon Posted December 18, 2018 Author Share Posted December 18, 2018 Thank you both. I started at Hadrosaur toe bone but talked myself out of it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SULLY Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 Well, I would feel bad if you had to be stuck with this when you really don’t want it. So I would be more than happy to help you out and take it off of your hands 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordTrilobite Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 Same here, I love Hadrosaurs 1 Olof Moleman AKA Lord Trilobite Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby Rico Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 Me too Hadrosaurs are pretty fantastic creatures. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MSirmon Posted December 18, 2018 Author Share Posted December 18, 2018 This is what I love about this community. Everyone is always willing to step up and help a fellow member with their challenges. I do appreciate the offers of assistance but think I will need to trudge on with this one on my shelf. Lol 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caldigger Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 Poor Mike, I hate to see you suffer so. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MSirmon Posted December 18, 2018 Author Share Posted December 18, 2018 51 minutes ago, caldigger said: Poor Mike, I hate to see you suffer so. It means a lot just knowing you recognize the incredible challenge I am dealing with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daves64 Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 You can call me insensitive if you want, but I'll let you suffer with your toe bone. 1 Accomplishing the impossible means only that the boss will add it to your regular duties. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MSirmon Posted December 18, 2018 Author Share Posted December 18, 2018 1 hour ago, daves64 said: You can call me insensitive if you want, but I'll let you suffer with your toe bone. That’s just hurtful Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daves64 Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 1 hour ago, MSirmon said: That’s just hurtful Yeah, I know. I'm just cruel that way.. making people live with their misery & torment instead of being a "good samaritan" & offering to relieve them of their burden.. it's a character flaw. Accomplishing the impossible means only that the boss will add it to your regular duties. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SULLY Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 You only hurt the ones you love Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MSirmon Posted December 19, 2018 Author Share Posted December 19, 2018 It looks like I may have found a way to soothe my pain. If I’m not mistaken this is a heavily encrusted vertebrae from a Hadrosaur. From the same location... Am I just seeing what I am wanting to see? also - Any ideas on the best way to clean this hidden beauty? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SULLY Posted December 19, 2018 Share Posted December 19, 2018 Jackpot 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daves64 Posted December 19, 2018 Share Posted December 19, 2018 4 hours ago, MSirmon said: It looks like I may have found a way to soothe my pain. See? You found a way to cope with the pain on your own. (I knew you could do it) 1 Accomplishing the impossible means only that the boss will add it to your regular duties. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordTrilobite Posted December 19, 2018 Share Posted December 19, 2018 7 hours ago, MSirmon said: It looks like I may have found a way to soothe my pain. If I’m not mistaken this is a heavily encrusted vertebrae from a Hadrosaur. From the same location... Am I just seeing what I am wanting to see? also - Any ideas on the best way to clean this hidden beauty? I agree that does indeed look like Hadrosaur. Mid caudal to be exact judging from the lateral processes and the small neural arch. Nice piece. I would suggest just prepping mechanically by hand with a dental pick to get under and chip away at the crust. And locally stabilise any clean areas and cracks it might have. Some reference from Hadrosaurus caudal vertebrae. It especially seems to be similar to nr. 12 and 13. Since it's Kaiparowits Fm. it could be Parasaurolophus. This is the only example I have of Parasaurolophus caudal vertebrae from further down the tail. But these caudal verts are more distally located and thus have no lateral processes. A is cervical, B is caudal. I'm not sure isolated caudal vertebrae can be properly identified though or how it would differ from Gryposaurus. So you'd still be looking at an indeterminate Hadro vert. 3 Olof Moleman AKA Lord Trilobite Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MSirmon Posted December 20, 2018 Author Share Posted December 20, 2018 15 hours ago, LordTrilobite said: I agree that does indeed look like Hadrosaur. Mid caudal to be exact judging from the lateral processes and the small neural arch. Nice piece. I would suggest just prepping mechanically by hand with a dental pick to get under and chip away at the crust. And locally stabilise any clean areas and cracks it might have. Some reference from Hadrosaurus caudal vertebrae. It especially seems to be similar to nr. 12 and 13. Since it's Kaiparowits Fm. it could be Parasaurolophus. This is the only example I have of Parasaurolophus caudal vertebrae from further down the tail. But these caudal verts are more distally located and thus have no lateral processes. A is cervical, B is caudal. I'm not sure isolated caudal vertebrae can be properly identified though or how it would differ from Gryposaurus. So you'd still be looking at an indeterminate Hadro vert. Thank you. These are the same diagrams I was looking at and was focussed on #12 and #13 as well. I'm good with indeterminate for now but will clean and see what else I can learn down the road. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hxmendoza Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 Nice fossils. May I ask how you got access to material from the Kaiparowits Formation? Isn’t all or most of it in the GSENM as part of he Kaiparowits Plateau? Or did Trump’s shrinking of the monument allow access now to these fossil exposures to landowners and fossil collectors? I thought all of that was still blocked and under continued litigation. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpc Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 The first one is definitely a hadrosaur toe bone. I have to agree with hxmendoza... isn't all of the outcrop with the Grand Staircase? Even if trump reduced its size, it is all still BLM land. Or are there small pieces of private land in the area? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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