Ludwigia Posted April 21, 2020 Share Posted April 21, 2020 I found this today at my local shark tooth site in the Miocene Burdigalian. It's a rather unique find for this site if I'm correct in thinking that this is really a bone fragment. It's not all that well preserved, so if it is one, it's probably not easy to identify, but I thought I'd give it a try here anyway. It's 3cm. long. Anybody have an idea? Greetings from the Lake of Constance. Roger http://www.steinkern.de/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caldigger Posted April 21, 2020 Share Posted April 21, 2020 Big fish vert broken in half? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ludwigia Posted April 21, 2020 Author Share Posted April 21, 2020 43 minutes ago, caldigger said: Big fish vert broken in half? Could be So you agree that it's a bone? Maybe it's dolphin? I've found a couple of teeth there. Greetings from the Lake of Constance. Roger http://www.steinkern.de/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caldigger Posted April 22, 2020 Share Posted April 22, 2020 I don't think dolphin. They are a cetacean their vertebrae aren't concave on the ends. I could be wrong, but I think it looks more like a large fish vertebra split in half lengthwise. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pemphix Posted April 22, 2020 Share Posted April 22, 2020 Definitely bone imho. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockwood Posted April 22, 2020 Share Posted April 22, 2020 7 hours ago, Ludwigia said: Maybe it's dolphin? I can see that. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockwood Posted April 22, 2020 Share Posted April 22, 2020 4 hours ago, caldigger said: They are a cetacean their vertebrae aren't concave on the ends. And you're sure the end is in sight ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ludwigia Posted April 22, 2020 Author Share Posted April 22, 2020 Thanks for your insights guys. Maybe @Harry Pristis or @Shellseeker have an opinion? Greetings from the Lake of Constance. Roger http://www.steinkern.de/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Pristis Posted April 22, 2020 Share Posted April 22, 2020 Sorry, Roger, wish I could help. I have opinions, but not about your Miocene find. 1 http://pristis.wix.com/the-demijohn-page What seest thou else In the dark backward and abysm of time? ---Shakespeare, The Tempest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ludwigia Posted April 22, 2020 Author Share Posted April 22, 2020 2 hours ago, Harry Pristis said: Sorry, Roger, wish I could help. I have opinions, but not about your Miocene find. Thanks anyway. Greetings from the Lake of Constance. Roger http://www.steinkern.de/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Kmiecik Posted April 22, 2020 Share Posted April 22, 2020 12 hours ago, Rockwood said: And you're sure the end is in sight ? That's a good one. I got it! Mark. Fossil hunting is easy -- they don't run away when you shoot at them! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockwood Posted April 22, 2020 Share Posted April 22, 2020 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shellseeker Posted April 23, 2020 Share Posted April 23, 2020 My initial reaction was also filefish vert... Here is a photo from @Spoons. Note that little "hook" in top middle of 1st photo. 3 The White Queen ".... in her youth she could believe "six impossible things before breakfast" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ludwigia Posted April 23, 2020 Author Share Posted April 23, 2020 8 hours ago, Shellseeker said: My initial reaction was also filefish vert... Here is a photo from @Spoons. Note that little "hook" in top middle of 1st photo. Thanks for your insight. That appears to be a good match, so at least I have something to write down beside the question mark. 1 Greetings from the Lake of Constance. Roger http://www.steinkern.de/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoons Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 I’d agree with filefish. Although 3 cm for a vertebrae seems to be quite large. The largest contemporary species of filefish the Scrawled Filefish reaches an average length of about 40cm. Here are some pictures of my Filefish vertebrae from the Rio Dell formation at centerville beach, Himboldt county Ca. Pliocene in age about 2ma: scale is in inches. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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