iliafes Posted September 13, 2020 Share Posted September 13, 2020 It is from New Mexico, likely from Pennsylvanian formations. Is it a fern? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paleoflor Posted September 13, 2020 Share Posted September 13, 2020 7 hours ago, iliafes said: It is from New Mexico, likely from Pennsylvanian formations. Is it a fern? This seems to be some sphenopterid foliage. Since Sphenopteris-like fronds were borne by both ferns and pteridosperms, it is not possible to say whether this is a fern without a species-level identification. Unfortunately, this is quite challenging for these 'fine, delicate fronds', especially on the basis of a photo. What is the size of the specimen? 1 Searching for green in the dark grey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iliafes Posted September 14, 2020 Author Share Posted September 14, 2020 This part of the plant is 2 cm long. I cannot spot on the web any fossil similar to this fine structure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iliafes Posted September 14, 2020 Author Share Posted September 14, 2020 Maybe this is similar: http://www.fossilmall.com/EDCOPE_Enterprises/plants/plfossil44/plant-fossil-44.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FossilDAWG Posted September 14, 2020 Share Posted September 14, 2020 The fossil you linked is from the Cretaceous of China; the great age difference makes it likely that any similarity is superficial. As paleoflor said, very distant plants (taxonomically speaking) share foliage of this type. We might be able to narrow things down some if we had more information about the locality where you found this fossil. For example, similar material is known from the Kinney quarry in the Manzanitas Mountains. Don 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iliafes Posted September 14, 2020 Author Share Posted September 14, 2020 I bought it in Mamas minerals and I only know that it is from NM. It is very similar to Sphenopteridium manzanitanum from the Kinney quarry Ref Fig 22: https://www.researchgate.net/publication/237842451_An_update_on_the_flora_of_the_Kinney_Quarry_of_central_New_Mexico_Upper_Pennsylvanian_its_preservational_and_environmental_significance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paleoflor Posted September 14, 2020 Share Posted September 14, 2020 The very small size of the pinnules in your specimen (which is 2 cm long in total) does not fit with Sphenopteridium manzanitanum (see scale bars in Figure 22 of DiMichele et al., 2013). The pinnules of S. manzanitanum also are lobed, whereas the ones in your specimen are more acutely pointed. Given the very small size, you might want to compare your specimen with Zeilleria (e.g. Z. deliculata, Z. frenzlii, Z. hymenophylloides). Note that the similarities are quite superficial, however, and that there are definitely many more, similar-looking forms. Confident identification would require specialized literature, preferably dealing with your locale. Personally, I'd therefore stick with Sphenopteris sp. for now. 2 Searching for green in the dark grey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iliafes Posted September 14, 2020 Author Share Posted September 14, 2020 Zeilleria have almost right angle between the leaflets and central rib, but my specimen has almost 45deg. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fossildude19 Posted September 14, 2020 Share Posted September 14, 2020 It reminds me of some specimens of Rhacophyllum sp. Tim - VETERAN SHALE SPLITTER VFOTM --- APRIL - 2015 IPFOTM -- MAY - 2024 _________________________________________________________________________________ "In every walk with nature one receives far more than he seeks." John Muir ~ ~ ~ ~ ><))))( *> About Me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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