HunterMeg Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 (edited) Hi everyone, A friend found this bone with what looks like a shark tooth embedded into it while he was hunting in Bakersfield near Shark Tooth Hill. Does it look like an embedded shark tooth? and what type of shark do you think it could be from? He found several Hastalis and Planus teeth in the same layer. I really appreciate all the help the community has provided me. I learn something new every time. Thanks! Edited November 17, 2020 by HunterMeg Added additional photo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Top Trilo Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 Can I see a closer angle of the side, from these images it doesn't look shark tooth shaped 1 “If fossils are not "boggling" your mind then you are simply not doing it right” -Ken (digit) "No fossil is garbage, it´s just not completely preserved” -Franz (FranzBernhard) "With hammer in hand, the open horizon of time, and dear friends by my side, what can we not accomplish together?" -Kane (Kane) "We are in a way conquering time, reuniting members of a long lost family" -Quincy (Opabinia Blues) "I loved reading the trip reports, I loved the sharing, I loved the educational aspect, I loved the humor. It felt like home. It still does" -Mike (Pagurus) “The best deal I ever got was getting accepted as a member on The Fossil Forum. Not only got an invaluable pool of knowledge, but gained a loving family as well.” -Doren (caldigger) "it really is nice, to visit the oasis that is TFF" -Tim (fossildude19) "Life's Good! -Adam (Tidgy's Dad) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mahnmut Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 Hello. This looks like something embedded in bone sure enough. For an identification of the embedded item itself I assume even the shark wizards on the forum here will need more closeup photos from different angles. Cheers, J 1 Try to learn something about everything and everything about something Thomas Henry Huxley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HunterMeg Posted November 17, 2020 Author Share Posted November 17, 2020 Thanks for the quick responses. I have asked him for some closer up views from different angles. I’ll add them to the post as soon as I receive them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HunterMeg Posted November 17, 2020 Author Share Posted November 17, 2020 New photos added. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brett Breakin' Rocks Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 1 hour ago, HunterMeg said: New photos added. All of these photos are at an obtuse angle .. if we can get down at eye level (perpendicular) so to speak and see the 'tooth' in profile, maybe a better shot right down the root/barrel of the tooth to see the internal structure. Definitely is not the right shape for a shark tooth but there are other possibilities. Cheers, Brett Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HunterMeg Posted November 17, 2020 Author Share Posted November 17, 2020 Thanks. I just added an additional photo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Praefectus Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 Looks like a piece of manganese growing on the bone, but I'm not sure. Hopefully some of the other shark tooth hill hunters can chime in. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darktooth Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 @JBMugu @ynot 1 I like Trilo-butts and I cannot lie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randyw Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 When I do an extreme blow up of the picture (besides getting fuzzy) It looks like it’s grown out of the bone instead of punched into the bone... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpc Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 manganese deposits are very common on Bakersfield bones. And they are randomly shaped black things. I am on the manganese team. This thing does not look like a shark tooth. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HunterMeg Posted November 17, 2020 Author Share Posted November 17, 2020 I really appreciate the information. That makes sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBMugu Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 What I find interesting is what looks like a nice shark tooth slice out of the bone further up. It could potentially be a broken off hastalis lower tooth, they can be roundish. Probably the only way to know for sure would be to pull it straight up and see if anything comes out (or use an x-ray). It doesn't jump out at me as a manganese nodule, I find they are usually a little more bubbly. I think there is a reasonable chance that its a broken off tooth. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
britishcanuk Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 3 hours ago, JBMugu said: What I find interesting is what looks like a nice shark tooth slice out of the bone further up. It could potentially be a broken off hastalis lower tooth, they can be roundish. Probably the only way to know for sure would be to pull it straight up and see if anything comes out (or use an x-ray). It doesn't jump out at me as a manganese nodule, I find they are usually a little more bubbly. I think there is a reasonable chance that its a broken off tooth. My thoughts as well, but my first impression was planus lower due to the robustness of the tooth and it’s round cross section. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBMugu Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 Yeah I actually mean to say planus lower, thanks for catching that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hemipristis Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 nice teeth! 1 'Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it.' George Santayana Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mahnmut Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 Something that only a really close look can solve, but in case it was a tooth, may the slight deformation visible in the blown up picture indicate that the bone started to heal around the tooth or is rather a diagenetic artifact? So it may be tooth, nodule, or tooth with nodule? Just wondering. Best Regards, J 1 Try to learn something about everything and everything about something Thomas Henry Huxley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HunterMeg Posted November 18, 2020 Author Share Posted November 18, 2020 I appreciate you taking a look at it and providing feedback. Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
val horn Posted November 19, 2020 Share Posted November 19, 2020 would a simple xray show anything between the density of the fossilized bone and the density of the tooth or mineral. can you take it to your local dentist or do you need something more powerful? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpc Posted November 19, 2020 Share Posted November 19, 2020 A CT at the local hospital would be the best. Bring it in (maybe after Covid) and show them and ask if they would be willing to check it out for you between real patients. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troodon Posted November 19, 2020 Share Posted November 19, 2020 A sharp closeup from side like the blurry one Randyw showed would help. Not seen a shark tooth from that image. Lots of other marine critters in that fauna. But could be mineral as others have stated Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HunterMeg Posted November 20, 2020 Author Share Posted November 20, 2020 I really appreciate everyone who commented. Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mahnmut Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 On 19.11.2020 at 3:04 AM, jpc said: A CT at the local hospital would be the best. Bring it in (maybe after Covid) and show them and ask if they would be willing to check it out for you between real patients. If you find the opportunity to have it CT-ed it may be even easier to have it scanned simultaneously with a real patient. That way it does not generate additional costs. Although that should not be as much of a problem with CT as with MRI, which is really expensive. A friend of mine wrote his doctors thesis on turtle lung function, For that reason there are now some people who will never forget the experience of going to the MRI together with a live turtle. Cheers, J Try to learn something about everything and everything about something Thomas Henry Huxley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpc Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 3 hours ago, Mahnmut said: If you find the opportunity to have it CT-ed it may be even easier to have it scanned simultaneously with a real patient. That way it does not generate additional costs. Although that should not be as much of a problem with CT as with MRI, which is really expensive. A friend of mine wrote his doctors thesis on turtle lung function, For that reason there are now some people who will never forget the experience of going to the MRI together with a live turtle. Cheers, J That is a great story. I have never been charged to do a CT of a fossil. Charged a ton to do one of me once. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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