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Fiber Optic Pipe/ Light Source Wrecked Fossilized Amber


pleecan

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Well it happen this morning trying to photograph a fossil... could not figure out why the image was deteriorating going out of focus.... I had connected a new fiber optic twin goose neck metal flex light pipe for illumination (Cheap light source) for microscope.... did not realize that the light source did not filter out infrared and conducted the infrared via inner metal conduit that surrounded fiber optic glass strands ... the amber was touching the end of the fiber optic pipe.... bad news.... the amber was very hot to the touch well it semi warped the NJ cretaceous amber with a parasitic wasp... all I now see is a field of tiny air bubbles .. I may have melted the amber resulting in plastic flow and air bubbles with the light source.

Before

This is a shot taken a few days ago:

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Illuminated with cold light source...

After

Now the wrecked fossil :( looks like this pooh:

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I probably would have been okay if the metal casing of the inner fiber optic did not contact the amber fossil.

At least I still have pics of what the fossil did look like.

A freak accident.... learned a lesson today.

PL

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Man, sorry 'bout your specimen. Do you think polishing the Amber might help you see it better? Hope you can save it.

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Oh, man, that's bitter :(

I feel for you, PL.

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Thanks guys... I never expected this.... got blind sided. I have put the fossil away for now... I will probably try to salvage by repolish it some day.... a bitter lesson. Time to move on... got an unknown which I will be posting shortly.

Peter

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thats a real shame! im going to go amber hunting next month where your specimen came from. if i find anything bug wise, i'll offer it to you first.

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thats a real shame! im going to go amber hunting next month where your specimen came from. if i find anything bug wise, i'll offer it to you first.

Thank You!

Regards,

Peter

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That is a shame :( Sorry to hear about it.

Thanks for the reply.... The intial shock has pasted...I posted this experience so others are aware of this potential hazard with something as simple as a light source when misapplied can destroy a fragile fossil... in this case ... amber. I hope by posting that others will be aware of potential pitfall and averted the same happenings.

Peter

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What type of bulb did your light source use? You can now get LED lamps that fit into standard sockets like MR16s. The color will be different but they will not transmit nearly as much heat. Some of those old light sources also had a place to insert a heat filter. That was a piece of glass set at a 45 degree angle and coated with a film(?) that reflected the IR away.

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What type of bulb did your light source use? You can now get LED lamps that fit into standard sockets like MR16s. The color will be different but they will not transmit nearly as much heat. Some of those old light sources also had a place to insert a heat filter. That was a piece of glass set at a 45 degree angle and coated with a film(?) that reflected the IR away.

Erose: Thanks for the suggestion with regards to the MR16... I believe the LED has better color balance an output close to 6000K color temp white light with very little IR (but low output lux intensity ) where as the halogen is more like 5000K color temp output with tremendous IR but high Lux intensity) ... I will probably live with the halogen source... just have an increase awareness of the tremendous heat generation... making sure that the fiber optic light pipe does not physically contact the specimen. I have several other lighting sources available that generates almost no heat... just that day I got adventurous and tried a light source that I had less familiarity with...

I believe it is some sort of halogen bulb with integrated reflector assembly similar to 35mm slide projector type sources... I do have LED lamps and 6000K fluorescent light sources which I currently use. Some day I may build myself 12v Xenon HID from car lamp assembly... thanks for your reply.

Peter

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Thanks for the info. I never thought of light/heat source ruining a great specimen. I bought a lot from that guy off ebay who appears to have mined almost all the amber out of sayerville. I still haven't gone through it but I expect he cherry picked anything before he sold it on ebay since he does sell single insect pieces.

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Also be carefully with that automotive Xenon bulb. I bought a few of those hi-intensity flash lights that use a similar bulb and A123 batteries. They warn you not to use it continuously for 10 minutes at a time and let it cool down and not touch the glass lens. I burned a hole through the nylon holder when I accidentally turned it on once. Luckily I didn't catch anything on fire in the car. But the smell of plastic melting made me nervous while I looked for the source.

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Thanks Taxman for the information /warning. The Xenon -Halogen bulbs are hot filament based bulbs and are different from HID = high intensity discharge light which requires special gas filled bulbs with high voltage +1000Volts circuits to ignite/generate a gas plasma... resulting in third to 50% drop in power consumption but has 3x the illumination power ... yes these bulbs do heat up ... that is why one would need a cooling fan much like a projector.

PL

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Erose: Thanks for the suggestion with regards to the MR16...

I believe it is some sort of halogen bulb with integrated reflector assembly similar to 35mm slide projector type sources...

FYI Those old slide projector bulbs usually ARE MR16s.

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FYI Those old slide projector bulbs usually ARE MR16s.

Thank You for the information!

Peter

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I forgot one thing in my intial posts... regards to origins of the Parasitic Wasp fosssil

To give credit where credit is due.... I want to add that the beautiful NJ Parasitic Wasp cretaceous amber fossil was collected by our forum member usaman65 .... Kevin.... a budding palaeo guy.... on his way to become an expert in amber fossils.

Sorry for accidentally destroying the amber fossil Kev.

Peter

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  • 2 weeks later...

Well it has been a little over 2 weeks since the accident so I revisited the amber fossil to salvage what I can... but to my amazement the entire amber looked like sponge toffee and had fallen apart.... this is a sad image of a amber fossil that was cooked under a hot light source ie fiber optic light pipe that did not have good IR filtering.... so call cold light cooked the fossil.... I am amazed by the amount of thermal heat energy that can be transmitted by fiber optics.... kind of reminds me of cooked mica that explodes at high temperatures ... like popcorn....

PL

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Thank you Kev (usaman65) (The Amber Man) for your super generosity!

Best Regards,

Peter

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Well a care package arrived today from Kevin C.(usaman65) with my replacement NJ amber + other goodies ... amber from Sarawak Malaysia.

The NJ Amber is an interesting piece contain many inclusions to be explored.... Thanks again Kev!

Insect inclusion of sorts...

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Some interesting flow patterns in the amber....

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Peter

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