Ludwigia Posted April 2, 2023 Share Posted April 2, 2023 Oooooooops! GreatHoatzin beat me to it. But I guess it's ok since they're both from different Stages. Greetings from the Lake of Constance. Roger http://www.steinkern.de/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreatHoatzin Posted April 2, 2023 Share Posted April 2, 2023 No worries, I’ll hop back in for Maastrichtian Cretaceous. Enchodus lybicus partial jaw fragment Khourigba, Morocco (can you tell I just went shopping?) 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Kmiecik Posted April 2, 2023 Share Posted April 2, 2023 6 hours ago, hemipristis said: Trias I mght, I just don't have many fossils from the Triassic to post Good one! 1 Mark. Fossil hunting is easy -- they don't run away when you shoot at them! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FossilDAWG Posted April 2, 2023 Share Posted April 2, 2023 2 hours ago, Ludwigia said: Well, we're back to the epoch where I have an unendless supply of specimens. I'm sure you have a lot, but probably not an infinite number, so maybe "unendless" is an appropriate term. Don 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ludwigia Posted April 2, 2023 Share Posted April 2, 2023 4 hours ago, FossilDAWG said: I'm sure you have a lot, but probably not an infinite number, so maybe "unendless" is an appropriate term. Don Not to worry. I do have a slight tendency to exaggeration Greetings from the Lake of Constance. Roger http://www.steinkern.de/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrangellian Posted April 4, 2023 Share Posted April 4, 2023 On 4/2/2023 at 9:44 AM, FossilDAWG said: I'm sure you have a lot, but probably not an infinite number, so maybe "unendless" is an appropriate term. Don I was thinking the same thing! Now we're back to the Paleocene, the other sticking point. I have something I could show but my camera lens is finally being fixed... can't get any pics until I get it back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Dente Posted April 5, 2023 Share Posted April 5, 2023 Here’s one from the Paleocene Aquia Formation. 1 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocket Posted April 5, 2023 Share Posted April 5, 2023 Eocene, nice Amphiperca multiformis, a percoid fish from famous lagerstaette Messel (world heritage), transfer-method-prepared (with raisin, otherwise the matrix will be destroyed, too much water and oil in it), size is approx. 18 cm 2 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
historianmichael Posted April 5, 2023 Share Posted April 5, 2023 (edited) Siphonochelus (Laevityphis) curvirostratus Early Oligocene Byram Formation Mississippi Edited April 5, 2023 by historianmichael 6 Follow me on Instagram (@fossil_mike) to check out my personal collection of fossils collected and acquired over more than 15 years of fossil hunting! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ludwigia Posted April 5, 2023 Share Posted April 5, 2023 A Physogaleus contortus tooth with a slant length of 2cm. An extremely rare find from my favorite shark tooth site in the region north of the Lake of Constance. Miocene Burdigalian. 3 Greetings from the Lake of Constance. Roger http://www.steinkern.de/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FossilDAWG Posted April 5, 2023 Share Posted April 5, 2023 8 hours ago, rocket said: Eocene, nice Amphiperca multiformis, a percoid fish from famous lagerstaette Messel (world heritage), transfer-method-prepared (with raisin, otherwise the matrix will be destroyed, too much water and oil in it), size is approx. 18 cm I think the transfer method involves resin, not raisin . Raisins (dried grapes) would probably get a little mushy over time. Don 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocket Posted April 5, 2023 Share Posted April 5, 2023 4 hours ago, FossilDAWG said: I think the transfer method involves resin, not raisin . Raisins (dried grapes) would probably get a little mushy over time. Don oh, ouuuu, in deed, resin... thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coco Posted April 5, 2023 Share Posted April 5, 2023 Hi, 5 hours ago, Ludwigia said: A Physogaleus contortus tooth with a slant length of 2cm. An extremely rare find from my favorite shark tooth site in the region north of the Lake of Constance. Miocene Burdigalian. I didn’t know this species could be in Europe, I thought it was only American. Nice ! Coco ---------------------- OUTIL POUR MESURER VOS FOSSILES : ici Pareidolia : here Ma bibliothèque PDF 1 (Poissons et sélaciens récents & fossiles) : ici Ma bibliothèque PDF 2 (Animaux vivants - sans poissons ni sélaciens) : ici Mâchoires sélaciennes récentes : ici Hétérodontiques et sélaciens : ici Oeufs sélaciens récents : ici Otolithes de poissons récents ! ici Un Greg... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ludwigia Posted April 5, 2023 Share Posted April 5, 2023 36 minutes ago, Coco said: Hi, I didn’t know this species could be in Europe, I thought it was only American. Nice ! Coco Well, I hope I'm right with my id then. Maybe we should ask @Al Dente and @ThePhysicist what they think. Greetings from the Lake of Constance. Roger http://www.steinkern.de/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coco Posted April 5, 2023 Share Posted April 5, 2023 Maybe you’re right, I’m not questioning your identification. @MarcoSr? Coco ---------------------- OUTIL POUR MESURER VOS FOSSILES : ici Pareidolia : here Ma bibliothèque PDF 1 (Poissons et sélaciens récents & fossiles) : ici Ma bibliothèque PDF 2 (Animaux vivants - sans poissons ni sélaciens) : ici Mâchoires sélaciennes récentes : ici Hétérodontiques et sélaciens : ici Oeufs sélaciens récents : ici Otolithes de poissons récents ! ici Un Greg... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieLynn Posted April 5, 2023 Share Posted April 5, 2023 Pliocene from Aurora North Carolina Ray tooth Raja sp. 4 www.fossil-quest.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ludwigia Posted April 5, 2023 Share Posted April 5, 2023 2 minutes ago, Coco said: Maybe you’re right, I’m not questioning your identification. @MarcoSr? Coco I know you're not, but I was just wondering myself if I got it right. I do know that Fossilworks lists finds from Germany, Belgium, Hungary and Italy. Greetings from the Lake of Constance. Roger http://www.steinkern.de/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Dente Posted April 5, 2023 Share Posted April 5, 2023 1 hour ago, Coco said: I didn’t know this species could be in Europe, I thought it was only American. Nice ! 42 minutes ago, Ludwigia said: Well, I hope I'm right with my id then. Maybe we should ask @Al Dente and @ThePhysicist what they think. Yes, they are found in Europe. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreatHoatzin Posted April 5, 2023 Share Posted April 5, 2023 Bison antiquus femur 1~2.5” Pleistocene ~14,000 yrs Kansas River, Wandott County, Kansas 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarcoSr Posted April 6, 2023 Share Posted April 6, 2023 11 hours ago, Coco said: Maybe you’re right, I’m not questioning your identification. @MarcoSr? Coco The tooth does look similar to a Physogaleus contortus (but the crown isn't twisted like I'm used to seeing from the US) to me. Cappetta 2012 specifically states about Physogaleus contortus that "it seems that it does not occur in Europe". Cappetta actually thinks that Physogaleus contortus from the US "could represent a new genus close to Physogaleus." However, other Physogaleus species are found in the Miocene of Europe. Marco Sr. 1 "Any day that you can fossil hunt is a great day." My family fossil website Some Of My Shark, Ray, Fish And Other Micros My Extant Shark Jaw Collection Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Dente Posted April 6, 2023 Share Posted April 6, 2023 2 hours ago, MarcoSr said: Cappetta 2012 specifically states about Physogaleus contortus that "it seems that it does not occur in Europe". I'm surprised at that because there are published accounts from Malta, Belgium, Germany, Italy and Hungary just in my small collection of papers. I believe I've seen them posted here from France and Portugal too. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarcoSr Posted April 6, 2023 Share Posted April 6, 2023 40 minutes ago, Al Dente said: I'm surprised at that because there are published accounts from Malta, Belgium, Germany, Italy and Hungary just in my small collection of papers. I believe I've seen them posted here from France and Portugal too. Eric I'm really not surprised. Cappetta 2012 shows Physogaleus from all the different places that you mention but not the species contortus. He thinks contortus is distinctly unique, not even really Physogaleus, (closely related genus), and only from the US. I can see feature differences in the P. contortus that I have collected from the US and the specimen posted in this thread. Cappetta could be totally wrong or maybe he has changed his opinion since 2012, but he is a researcher of quite some status where you have to at least evaluate what he says. I would need to hold these contortus examples from these papers from Europe in my hand and compare them to my US samples to be sure. Just another example where shark researchers don't agree which I could show so many other examples. Marco Sr. 1 "Any day that you can fossil hunt is a great day." My family fossil website Some Of My Shark, Ray, Fish And Other Micros My Extant Shark Jaw Collection Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ludwigia Posted April 6, 2023 Share Posted April 6, 2023 @MarcoSr @Al Dente Thank you both for your helpful comments! I think I'll just stick with P. contortus or at least Physogaleus sp. until definite proof comes along for a new species or genus. Greetings from the Lake of Constance. Roger http://www.steinkern.de/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hemipristis Posted April 8, 2023 Share Posted April 8, 2023 On 4/6/2023 at 7:48 AM, Coco said: Hi, I didn’t know this species could be in Europe, I thought it was only American. Nice ! Coco On 4/6/2023 at 8:41 PM, MarcoSr said: The tooth does look similar to a Physogaleus contortus (but the crown isn't twisted like I'm used to seeing from the US) to me. Cappetta 2012 specifically states about Physogaleus contortus that "it seems that it does not occur in Europe". Cappetta actually thinks that Physogaleus contortus from the US "could represent a new genus close to Physogaleus." However, other Physogaleus species are found in the Miocene of Europe. Marco Sr. I have seen several Physogaleus teeth from Belgium, and have 2 obtained in a trade from a Belgian collector from several years ago. He had them ID'd as Physogaleus cf. P. contortus, and they both resemble the tooth posted, with crowns that have only the slighted twist to the. 3 'Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it.' George Santayana Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieLynn Posted April 12, 2023 Share Posted April 12, 2023 Soooo...are we stuck on Cambrian? 1 www.fossil-quest.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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