New Members Cavalier Posted June 15, 2022 New Members Share Posted June 15, 2022 Hello all. My first purchase. I'm pretty confident of they're authenticity. But I just want any concern settled. Slight impulse buy as they were in an auction and it almost ended. Tooth #1: Actually has sand still stuck in its crevices and still smells like the sea. This might make it an obvious real specimen but I don't know how far fakers are willing to go. The white striations are a lot more prominent in the pictures. They don't really look like that in person. Polishing compound? Reportedly Otodus Megalodon from South Carolina. Tooth #2: Very little sand can be seen. A lot cleaner. No odor. Same deal with the white lines (cracks) in enamel. Reportedly Otodus Megalodon, about the Miocene period. South Carolina. Though I thought the Otodus and Miocene period occured at different times. Can't find a definitive answer. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phos_01 Posted June 15, 2022 Share Posted June 15, 2022 Looks good real tooth, what you would expect. I don't see any repairs , apart from the filler in the vertical cracks, perhaps to enhance the durability Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meganeura Posted June 15, 2022 Share Posted June 15, 2022 Both look real to me! And Megalodons used to be Carcharodon Megalodon but have recently been changed to Otodus Megalodon - probably why you’re having issues finding info on Otodus during the Miocene. Megalodons we’re absolutely around during the Miocene and can be found from North Carolina (and possibly further North?) all the way up to Florida (and possibly further south?)! Fossils? I dig it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digit Posted June 15, 2022 Share Posted June 15, 2022 1 hour ago, Phos_01 said: Looks good real tooth, what you would expect. I don't see any repairs , apart from the filler in the vertical cracks, perhaps to enhance the durability Agreed. Some Meg Ledge teeth will have white striations in the enamel--possibly a bit of salt build-up. Nothing to be concerned about. 31 minutes ago, Meganeura said: And Megalodons used to be Carcharodon Megalodon but have recently been changed to Otodus Megalodon The taxonomic affiliation and appropriate genus name for the meg seem to always be in flux. It has variously been Carcharodon, Otodus, Carcharocles (and a number of other less common names). This is a chronospecies that has evolved over time from the commonly seen Moroccan Otodus obliquus to the most famous meg which went the way of the Dodo around 3.6 Ma (most recent evidence). Researcher Victor Perez (a friend of mine) has written several papers on this species and chooses to consider it in the genus Carcharocles and I trust that he's labored over this decision and chosen this (for the present) and so I consider the species Carcharocles megalodon. That doesn't mean you won't find it with other genera--even the link below is not internally consistent: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Megalodon Overall, a nice couple of teeth to get the collection started out. Cheers. -Ken 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meganeura Posted June 15, 2022 Share Posted June 15, 2022 32 minutes ago, digit said: The taxonomic affiliation and appropriate genus name for the meg seem to always be in flux. It has variously been Carcharodon, Otodus, Carcharocles (and a number of other less common names). This is a chronospecies that has evolved over time from the commonly seen Moroccan Otodus obliquus to the most famous meg which went the way of the Dodo around 3.6 Ma (most recent evidence). Researcher Victor Perez (a friend of mine) has written several papers on this species and chooses to consider it in the genus Carcharocles and I trust that he's labored over this decision and chosen this (for the present) and so I consider the species Carcharocles megalodon. That doesn't mean you won't find it with other genera--even the link below is not internally consistent: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Megalodon Overall, a nice couple of teeth to get the collection started out. Cheers. -Ken Hey Ken - do you have links or info on where I can find said papers? I'd love to learn more about why he ended up choosing Carcharocles over the other 2 main ones! Fossils? I dig it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digit Posted June 15, 2022 Share Posted June 15, 2022 Here's one of his latest: https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/02724634.2018.1546732 Cheers. -Ken 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meganeura Posted June 16, 2022 Share Posted June 16, 2022 14 hours ago, digit said: Here's one of his latest: https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/02724634.2018.1546732 Cheers. -Ken Much appreciated, thanks Ken! Fossils? I dig it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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