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After hurricane Ian hit last year, I made a trip report from a location that doesn't offer many perfect teeth:

I have been back there probably 12+ times since then, but have never come close to that many finds...until now.  This is one pass of the creek, but split into two trips due to getting rained out halfway through the first day.  Also, I only surface hunt, leaving lots for all of the sifters to find. :Wink1:

 

My first nurse shark tooth!  At 5 mm, I'm lucky to have found it surface hunting:

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Broken arrowhead, but I rarely find these:

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Broken C. catticus.  Such a shame since they are uncommon here:

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I think these are all odontocete teeth (maybe not the first one):

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Worn horse tooth and a frag:

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Verts and hypural bones, etc.  One is 3 or 4 verts fused together!

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Ray mouthplate bits:

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Other miscellaneous:

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Better picture of the sawfish rostral tooth(?):

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Otodus and suspected Otodus frags:

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And did you see it in the mix?  I finally got a complete angy here, although it is missing the serration on the tip.  Still, this is as good as they come at this location:

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Other "larger" teeth (sand tigers, hastalis, great whites, Isurus):

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Close-up of one of the great whites, since I don't find many anywhere in Summerville, and the ones I do find are usually missing the root:

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Lots of smalls:

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I don't keep many bones, but here are a few odd pieces, a worn cetacean vert, turtle, and a couple shells:

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No 4+ inch angy this trip, but some things I've never found and some that are in good condition for this spot.  My husband did tell me before I left to not even bother coming home if I didn't find a cowshark tooth.  But, who are we kidding...we all know who is in charge.  :D

 

Thanks for reading!

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Nice Ginglyomostoma (I believe cirratum)

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Great finds! Good spotting on that rostral tooth!

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Those are an insane amount of finds!

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Fossils? I dig it. :meg:

 

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2 minutes ago, Meganeura said:

Those are an insane amount of finds!

That's a big compliment coming from someone who hunts the Peace!  :)

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Wow nice specimens!

 

That is a beautiful nurse shark tooth.  I seem to always find them with the main cusp or adjacent cusps badly damaged or missing.  I wonder what they were eating.  Their teeth weren't designed for crushing shells.

 

I really like this Otodus sp. with the feeding damage.  Great colors.

 

 

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Could you post more pictures of the specimen that you think may be a sawfish rostral tooth?  Size?

 

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Thanks @MarcoSr!  Here are a couple more pictures that I already have on my phone.  Will try to take more later, but it has been difficult with a phone. 7mm height and 5mm wide at the base. 

 

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@MarcoSr, these aren't great, but they are about as good as small things get on my phone camera.  Let me know if you need more.  Thanks!

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Definitely not a sawfish rostral tooth especially from that time period.  The specimen looks like a ray dermal denticle to me.

 

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Ok, thank you @MarcoSr!  I haven't found either before, so it was just a guess.  

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48 minutes ago, Fin Lover said:

Ok, thank you @MarcoSr!  I haven't found either before, so it was just a guess.  

Good thing Marco Sr. requested more views! That first photo had mr fooled...plus, I didn't think about the Age.

 
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15 minutes ago, old bones said:

Good thing Marco Sr. requested more views! That first photo had mr fooled...plus, I didn't think about the Age.

So, is Oligocene is too young to have a sawfish rostral tooth?  I found what the forum identified as a piece of the rostrum at another creek in the area that is Oligocene and younger. 

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1 hour ago, Fin Lover said:

So, is Oligocene is too young to have a sawfish rostral tooth?  I found what the forum identified as a piece of the rostrum at another creek in the area that is Oligocene and younger. 

 

There are Pristis and Anoxypristis sawfish in the Oligocene whose rostral teeth look very different from the rostral teeth of the different genera of sawfish from the Cretaceous that get posted all the time here on TFF.

 

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If you want to see some extant rostral teeth of Pristis and Anoxypristis sawfish, check out my below thread.  You can see in this thread that these sawfish rostral teeth look very different from your specimen.

 

 

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Thank you @MarcoSr, I will check this out after work.  I was originally thinking that rostral teeth looked similar to barracuda teeth (like the ones circled below maybe), which is definitely not how the dermal denticle looks. 

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But, I also remember seeing things on the forum (but not the ages), so things get a little mixed up.  :Wink1:  I will read your posts so I know in the future!  

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