Brevicollis Posted May 8 Share Posted May 8 (edited) Hello, I saw this Dragonfly from Solnhofen for sale today and wondered If its real or painted, as it has only two wings (I remember that Dragonflys have normally four and not a set of horns) and it appears to bend with the rock underneath. Its also only one picture to maybe hide some details, so im pretty sure its fake. Sice : 7,5×14 cm @oilshale, @rocket, @Ludwigia Edited May 8 by Brevicollis My account and something about me : My still growing collection : My paleoart : Im just a guy who really loves fossils Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocket Posted May 8 Share Posted May 8 late artwork of an unknown artist, might be 40% original and 60% nice painting 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ludwigia Posted May 8 Share Posted May 8 Terrible! Wouldn't touch that with a 10-foot pole. 1 2 Greetings from the Lake of Constance. Roger http://www.steinkern.de/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oilshale Posted May 8 Share Posted May 8 (edited) Oh gosh, the dragonfly wasn't even painted by an artist but a bungler This dragonfly (from China) is 100% fake (only the Lycoptera are real), but at least it was painted (or printed?) properly and the artist had some knowledge of anatomy. At least the artist made an effort here: I fell for it, anyway. Edited May 8 by oilshale 1 Be not ashamed of mistakes and thus make them crimes (Confucius, 551 BC - 479 BC). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brevicollis Posted May 8 Author Share Posted May 8 (edited) Lets pray that no one will fall for it Edited May 8 by Brevicollis My account and something about me : My still growing collection : My paleoart : Im just a guy who really loves fossils Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brevicollis Posted May 8 Author Share Posted May 8 56 minutes ago, oilshale said: Oh gosh, the dragonfly wasn't even painted by an artist but a bungler This dragonfly (from China) is 100% fake (only the Lycoptera are real), but at least it was painted (or printed?) properly and the artist had some knowledge of anatomy. At least the artist made an effort here: I fell for it, anyway. Oh, sad to hear. Hopefully this wont happen to you again. My account and something about me : My still growing collection : My paleoart : Im just a guy who really loves fossils Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocket Posted May 8 Share Posted May 8 55 minutes ago, oilshale said: Oh gosh, the dragonfly wasn't even painted by an artist but a bungler This dragonfly (from China) is 100% fake (only the Lycoptera are real), but at least it was painted (or printed?) properly and the artist had some knowledge of anatomy. At least the artist made an effort here: I fell for it, anyway. printed, I have been in contact with some eastern asian collectors who know some of the artist. They print it on the slate...., incredible Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ludwigia Posted May 8 Share Posted May 8 23 minutes ago, Brevicollis said: Lets pray that no one will fall for it I just saw what he's asking for it. Downright fraud! 1 Greetings from the Lake of Constance. Roger http://www.steinkern.de/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPrice Posted May 8 Share Posted May 8 The dendrites on the slab sure looks real enough to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBkansas Posted May 8 Share Posted May 8 (edited) I'm not sure why dragonflies are so much more in demand than other insects. You can find tons of insects with large well preserved wings but similar dragonflies are 5-10x more expensive. Edited May 8 by JBkansas 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPrice Posted May 8 Share Posted May 8 Maybe I should combine these together. Ink the next dragonfly that hits my car grille and press it onto this shale with dendrites. Lots of room and the car damaged dragonfly will look very fossilly. Maybe... I should charge a lot for it, too 😁 Just kidding, guys. Reality? - so sad that this is a thing to fake and sell. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oilshale Posted May 8 Share Posted May 8 1 hour ago, Brevicollis said: Oh, sad to hear. Hopefully this wont happen to you again. It wasn't the first time and it won't be the last. Be not ashamed of mistakes and thus make them crimes (Confucius, 551 BC - 479 BC). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brevicollis Posted May 8 Author Share Posted May 8 (edited) 29 minutes ago, SPrice said: Maybe I should combine these together. Ink the next dragonfly that hits my car grille and press it onto this shale with dendrites. Lots of room and the car damaged dragonfly will look very fossilly. Maybe... I should charge a lot for it, too 😁 Just kidding, guys. Reality? - so sad that this is a thing to fake and sell. Sounds actually like a funny Idea... An interesting experiment. But please use it as a display piece for you and dont sell it! I actually dont know, why Dragonflys are so insanely expensive, but I think they are great pieces for display, and very coveted amongst the collectors. Or good ones are just stupidly rare... Edited May 8 by Brevicollis 1 My account and something about me : My still growing collection : My paleoart : Im just a guy who really loves fossils Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yoda Posted May 9 Share Posted May 9 14 hours ago, JBkansas said: I'm not sure why dragonflies are so much more in demand than other insects. You can find tons of insects with large well preserved wings but similar dragonflies are 5-10x more expensive. There does seem to be a tendency for a lot of fake Dragonflies Maybe it's the name ??? And they are quite impressive insects. 1 MotM August 2023 - Eclectic Collector Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tidgy's Dad Posted May 9 Share Posted May 9 Yeah, it's the name, they look great, they are bigger than most insects, most people have seen them and can relate to the fossil, and they are often brightly coloured now, so one can imagine the colours of your specimen.......... Lots of reasons. 1 Life's Good! Tortoise Friend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPrice Posted May 9 Share Posted May 9 I'm in Nashville for my daughter's graduation from Vanderbilt and the cicada double brood hatch is in full S(w)ing! Millions already. Thought I might bag a few dead ones and practice cicada fossils. After a couple hundred prints I should be as good as these dragonfly prints. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPrice Posted May 9 Share Posted May 9 6 minutes ago, SPrice said: I'm in Nashville for my daughter's graduation from Vanderbilt and the cicada double brood hatch is in full S(w)ing! Millions already. Thought I might bag a few dead ones and practice cicada fossils. After a couple hundred prints I should be as good as these dragonfly prints. Nevermind...already been done...sigh... In "Amber" , too. My cash cow got away. Dang! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBkansas Posted May 11 Share Posted May 11 (edited) On 5/9/2024 at 6:54 PM, SPrice said: Nevermind...already been done...sigh... I think that Daohugou one is real. Edited May 11 by JBkansas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPrice Posted May 11 Share Posted May 11 (edited) 22 minutes ago, JBkansas said: I think that Daohugou one is real. You're correct! I just grabbed the first cicada fossil image for the humorous response about these unfortunate forgeries. And I thought fake watches were bad. Some people have lost or never had scruples, morals nor integrity. Greed for money....just sad. PS... Oh, you meant the resin coated one? I think that is modern in dyed resin...not an actual fossilized cicada. That is a cheap auction site special creation. The one in matrix is legitimate. Synapocossus sciacchitanoae . Edited May 11 by SPrice Addendum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBkansas Posted May 11 Share Posted May 11 (edited) 1 hour ago, SPrice said: The one in matrix is legitimate. Synapocossus sciacchitanoae . Yeah, the one in Daohugou matrix with the small clams. I haven't seen any forgeries of those yet but I'm sure they're out there. Edited May 11 by JBkansas 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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