Jaybot Posted June 11 Share Posted June 11 Hey everyone! Recently I found this skull section, and after some research I am pretty sure it's bear. Due to size, I have determined that it is too big for black bear, so I determined that it was brown bear. That is, until I realized quite a few predators look similar... and now I'm not 100% sure on my Brown bear id. I'm hoping some of y'all can either confirm that it is brown bear- or if it is something else possibly. Thank you so much in advance! Found in 'Glacial' deposits of E Kansas Measurements are in cm/mm And here's why I hesitated on labeling it as brown bear: (not suggesting in any way that these are possible id's) Mandrill skull: American Mountain Lion: -Jay “The earth doesn't need new continents, but new men.” ― Jules Verne, Twenty Thousand Leagues Under the Sea Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C2fossils Posted June 18 Share Posted June 18 Cave lion, notice the back where the eye socket is very similar to yours, (I am not saying it is cave lion, just a possibility) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaybot Posted June 18 Author Share Posted June 18 5 minutes ago, C2fossils said: Cave lion Can't be Cave lion, their range does not reach to where this was found: If it was lion, it would be the American Lion. 1 -Jay “The earth doesn't need new continents, but new men.” ― Jules Verne, Twenty Thousand Leagues Under the Sea Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaybot Posted June 18 Author Share Posted June 18 Update: This is in fact a Felidae braincase, likely belonging to Adelphailurus kansensis 2 -Jay “The earth doesn't need new continents, but new men.” ― Jules Verne, Twenty Thousand Leagues Under the Sea Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mahnmut Posted June 18 Share Posted June 18 3 hours ago, Jaybot said: Update: This is in fact a Felidae braincase, likely belonging to Adelphailurus kansensis That would be sensational, as far as wikipedia tells me there is only one specimen known, and though wiki is not the most reliable of sources I assume that means they are quite rare? That fragment would be a paper of its own, especially as the holotype KUMVP 3462 is the front part of a skull lacking the back. May I ask how you found that ID? And what are you going to do with it? Best regards, J Try to learn something about everything and everything about something Thomas Henry Huxley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaybot Posted June 18 Author Share Posted June 18 19 minutes ago, Mahnmut said: That would be sensational, as far as wikipedia tells me there is only one specimen known, and though wiki is not the most reliable of sources I assume that means they are quite rare? That fragment would be a paper of its own, especially as the holotype KUMVP 3462 is the front part of a skull lacking the back. May I ask how you found that ID? And what are you going to do with it? Best regards, J Outside of Wikipedia, I have found mention of a few specimens, and I think one was found in Arizona if I remember correctly. The rarity of this genus/species is what’s making me hesitant labeling it as such. I identified it to that genus by elimination of all other possibilities that I could think of (Homotherium, American Lion, Smilodon, Puma, etc). Characteristics and/or size led me to this genus. If this ends up being Adelphailurus, I might loan to a local Institution for temporary research- we’ll see. I’ll get in contact with the local expert soon. If this is what I think, it indeed would be very neat to have a paper on it! 1 1 -Jay “The earth doesn't need new continents, but new men.” ― Jules Verne, Twenty Thousand Leagues Under the Sea Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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