New Members marcelolo Posted June 12 New Members Share Posted June 12 hello everyone, please help me to identify what animal of this? and this one is fosslize or nor? are this one is antelope/ buffalo/ deer/ maybe another animal? thankyouuu found in java island, thankyou so much 😭😭😭 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fossildude19 Posted June 12 Share Posted June 12 Size would be needed to make an accurate guess. Tim - VETERAN SHALE SPLITTER VFOTM --- APRIL - 2015 IPFOTM -- MAY - 2024 _________________________________________________________________________________ "In every walk with nature one receives far more than he seeks." John Muir ~ ~ ~ ~ ><))))( *> About Me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPrice Posted June 12 Share Posted June 12 (edited) Buffalo or other member of the bovine family is my suggestion. For an example...Here's an American Bison skull in my cactus garden. Commonly called a Buffalo, in the cow/bovine family. Cows, Buffalo, goats, antelopes have horns which do not shed like deer, moose and elk...which have antlers. Your skull is missing both keratin coverings over the horn bone. So antelope or deer animals would be excluded from this skull...but some kind of bovine . The Bison skull is showing similar horns. My skull picture has one cover off and one on. Edited June 12 by SPrice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas.Dodson Posted June 12 Share Posted June 12 1 hour ago, SPrice said: Buffalo is my suggestion. Here's an American Bison skull in my cactus garden. Commonly called a Buffalo, in the cow/bovine family. Cows, Buffalo, goats, antelopes have horns which do not shed like deer, moose and elk...which have antlers. Your skull is missing both keratin coverings over the horn bone. My skull picture has one cover off and one on. I don't think so. OP also said the item was found in Java so Bison shouldn't be a possibility. This is a guess since I'm unfamiliar with all the options there, but maybe a juvenile of one of the local Bos like Bos javanicus. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fossildude19 Posted June 12 Share Posted June 12 9 hours ago, SPrice said: Buffalo is my suggestion. Here's an American Bison skull in my cactus garden. Commonly called a Buffalo, in the cow/bovine family. Cows, Buffalo, goats, antelopes have horns which do not shed like deer, moose and elk...which have antlers. Your skull is missing both keratin coverings over the horn bone. My skull picture has one cover off and one on. Picture is missing. Looks like you linked to a google doc folder image, rather than posting directly. Tim - VETERAN SHALE SPLITTER VFOTM --- APRIL - 2015 IPFOTM -- MAY - 2024 _________________________________________________________________________________ "In every walk with nature one receives far more than he seeks." John Muir ~ ~ ~ ~ ><))))( *> About Me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPrice Posted June 12 Share Posted June 12 8 hours ago, Thomas.Dodson said: I don't think so. OP also said the item was found in Java so Bison shouldn't be a possibility. This is a guess since I'm unfamiliar with all the options there, but maybe a juvenile of one of the local Bos like Bos javanicus. I clarified somewhat my post. The OP mentions....antelope/ buffalo/ deer/ maybe another animal. My intent was to eliminate antelope and deer and suggest something in the bovine family...like water buffalo or whatever cow type animal in the Java area. Banteng is new to me. The bison skull is what I have on hand with similar horns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaybot Posted June 12 Share Posted June 12 I agree with it being Bovine- likely in the Bos genus. To determine if it's fossil or not, I'd recommend to perform the 'burn' or 'scorch' test. Clean an area of the bone, then let it dry completely. Hold a flame to the bone for about 5-10 seconds, then see if you can smell a 'burnt hair' smell. You will know if you do smell it, as it is an awful smell. If you can't smell the said 'burnt hair' like smell, then it is likely a fossil. I have found that cleaning an area first is important, as some algae and moss can smell putrid when burned, giving an inaccurate test. Hope this helps! Interesting find. -Jay “The earth doesn't need new continents, but new men.” ― Jules Verne, Twenty Thousand Leagues Under the Sea Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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