fifbrindacier Posted June 17 Share Posted June 17 (edited) Hi, i found that piece of jaw in a Serravallian marine environnent in Mios, department Gironde, France, looking for shark teeth and that's obviously not one. The item is 5.5 cm at its longest part. Edited June 17 by fifbrindacier "On ne voit bien que par le coeur, l'essentiel est invisible pour les yeux." (Antoine de Saint-Exupéry) "We only well see with the heart, the essential is invisible for the eyes." In memory of Doren Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coco Posted June 17 Share Posted June 17 Hi, Sophie, I don’t see what it could be. Do you have the opportunity to clean it up a bit or is the sediment too hard ? Coco ---------------------- OUTIL POUR MESURER VOS FOSSILES : ici Pareidolia : here Ma bibliothèque PDF 1 (Poissons et sélaciens récents & fossiles) : ici Ma bibliothèque PDF 2 (Animaux vivants - sans poissons ni sélaciens) : ici Mâchoires sélaciennes récentes : ici Hétérodontiques et sélaciens : ici Oeufs sélaciens récents : ici Otolithes de poissons récents ! ici Un Greg... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fifbrindacier Posted June 17 Author Share Posted June 17 (edited) There are litte rounded teeth beneath, i've cleaned it and i think this is a sparid jaw. I've seen that one on the net, for comparison : Edited June 18 by fifbrindacier "On ne voit bien que par le coeur, l'essentiel est invisible pour les yeux." (Antoine de Saint-Exupéry) "We only well see with the heart, the essential is invisible for the eyes." In memory of Doren Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coco Posted June 17 Share Posted June 17 Okay, it looks like. I had seen the little tooth, but I find its place weird, too on the bone. I thought the round teeth of the sparids were positioned on the lower and upper palate. Coco 1 ---------------------- OUTIL POUR MESURER VOS FOSSILES : ici Pareidolia : here Ma bibliothèque PDF 1 (Poissons et sélaciens récents & fossiles) : ici Ma bibliothèque PDF 2 (Animaux vivants - sans poissons ni sélaciens) : ici Mâchoires sélaciennes récentes : ici Hétérodontiques et sélaciens : ici Oeufs sélaciens récents : ici Otolithes de poissons récents ! ici Un Greg... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fossildude19 Posted June 17 Share Posted June 17 2 hours ago, Coco said: Okay, it looks like. I had seen the little tooth, but I find its place weird, too on the bone. I thought the round teeth of the sparids were positioned on the lower and upper palate. Coco Cropped, contrasted, and brightened. Tim - VETERAN SHALE SPLITTER VFOTM --- APRIL - 2015 IPFOTM -- MAY - 2024 _________________________________________________________________________________ "In every walk with nature one receives far more than he seeks." John Muir ~ ~ ~ ~ ><))))( *> About Me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C2fossils Posted June 17 Share Posted June 17 Drum fish? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coco Posted June 17 Share Posted June 17 Thanks tim. Now we see the location of the old teeth that are gone. Coco ---------------------- OUTIL POUR MESURER VOS FOSSILES : ici Pareidolia : here Ma bibliothèque PDF 1 (Poissons et sélaciens récents & fossiles) : ici Ma bibliothèque PDF 2 (Animaux vivants - sans poissons ni sélaciens) : ici Mâchoires sélaciennes récentes : ici Hétérodontiques et sélaciens : ici Oeufs sélaciens récents : ici Otolithes de poissons récents ! ici Un Greg... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fifbrindacier Posted June 18 Author Share Posted June 18 Thank you Tim. What i mistook for a tooth in the first place must be a bone process. "On ne voit bien que par le coeur, l'essentiel est invisible pour les yeux." (Antoine de Saint-Exupéry) "We only well see with the heart, the essential is invisible for the eyes." In memory of Doren Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fifbrindacier Posted June 18 Author Share Posted June 18 15 hours ago, C2fossils said: Drum fish? I'm not sure that's a drum fish, but that's surely a Sparid. @Al Dente? 1 "On ne voit bien que par le coeur, l'essentiel est invisible pour les yeux." (Antoine de Saint-Exupéry) "We only well see with the heart, the essential is invisible for the eyes." In memory of Doren Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Dente Posted June 18 Share Posted June 18 3 hours ago, fifbrindacier said: I'm not sure that's a drum fish, but that's surely a Sparid. @Al Dente? It is a premaxilla. It does look more like Sparidae than one of the drums (Sciaenidae). 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hemipristis Posted June 18 Share Posted June 18 For comparison: Sparidae 2 'Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it.' George Santayana Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hemipristis Posted June 18 Share Posted June 18 Vs Scianidae 1 'Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it.' George Santayana Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fifbrindacier Posted June 19 Author Share Posted June 19 On 6/18/2024 at 10:03 AM, Al Dente said: It is a premaxilla. It does look more like Sparidae than one of the drums (Sciaenidae). On 6/18/2024 at 11:16 AM, hemipristis said: For comparison: Sparidae Thank you very both of you. "On ne voit bien que par le coeur, l'essentiel est invisible pour les yeux." (Antoine de Saint-Exupéry) "We only well see with the heart, the essential is invisible for the eyes." In memory of Doren Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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