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Great day hunting. 

My friend found a section of Baleen whale ear bone that he gave me because he knows I like whale. I return the favor in Megs. His find of the day was a light blue hand blown pickle bottle about 6.5 inches from the 1880s. Very pretty , I should have taken a photo.. This location was basically in the middle of nowhere and I wonder who was having a Picnic there 140 years ago. Another treasure from the Peace.

Here is what I kept...

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1st location we hunted in heavily Marine based Miocene. Found this whale tooth about 9 am so this was a great hunt right away.  I was ecstatic !!! :megdance:  Harry has a couple but this is my 1st ever of this type.  Similar teeth have come from Shark Tooth Hill,  Chile, Italy. I'll try to track down a name.

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I also found what I think is part of a Whale Skull,  and that is my Fossil ID request.. It is from a very large mammal and in this spot , most likely whale and then I started thinking  not rib,  not jaw, not even vert.. Process of elimination .. What do you think?

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Other finds:

The coral looks like that from the Tampa Limestone, now called the Tampa Member of the Arcadia Formation.  Probably either Stylophora silecensis or Acropora tamapaensis.  MikeR, 2023

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We moved down stream a little and now in the normal Peace River MioPleistocene fauna.

 

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All in all, One of those special days.. 

River depth up a foot , no issues... currents a little faster.  Really HOT,  mid 90s humidity,  Having not hunted in over a week, and just beyond a cold/flu,  I was bushed... We left early.  Lots of smiles

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11 minutes ago, Shellseeker said:

Really HOT,  mid 90s humidity

For once Floridians aren't the only ones experiencing high heat.  It's been real hot here in the midwest. 90's, and high humidity as well.

Glad to hear y'all got some rain, heard that algae was getting bad.

 

Not an expert obviously, but I also am getting a skull feel with that.  Doesn't seem to match the structure of any whale bone that I saw, but I can't seem to find a picture of skull internal structure.  Just a wild guess, but could it be part of the skull where the mandible articulates?  This is kinda out of my league

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4 hours ago, ynot said:

Pelvis?

Thank you... Kinda makes sense.  Here are the Pelvic bones of a Bowhead whale...

 

 

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That would be tremendously cool... How may people get to find the vestigial pelvic bones of fossil whales...

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Here are just some examples of similar looking whale teeth...

From @Harry Pristis

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From @jcbshark Florida again, 

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From @RJB, a whale tooth from Peru

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I also saw a very similar Miocene sperm whale tooth From a named whale in Italy and a similar tooth from Shark Tooth Hill.. Just need some time to search...

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Why do you think this is a coral, Jack?  I don't see any corallites.  Is this one of the putative branching bryozoans?

 

 

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44 minutes ago, Harry Pristis said:

Why do you think this is a coral, Jack?  I don't see any corallites.  Is this one of the putative branching bryozoans?

Harry, I do see the branching bryozoans, almost exact to your last two photos.

I had found a fossil at SMR years back and asked MikeR for an ID

Due to silica or other transformations,  I could not see the corallites either.

Fast forward to the Peace River,  I began to find similar branching fossils transformed to silica.  

 

Clearly, I can be wrong but I see differences in the textures and branching of these finds that implied coral branching similar to the one in the referenced thread. 

 

Be interested in your view...   Jack

 

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2 hours ago, Shellseeker said:

I also saw a very similar Miocene sperm whale tooth From a named whale in Italy and a similar tooth from Shark Tooth Hill.. Just need some time to search..

 

Now that I had some time:

Shark Tooth Hill

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Italy..

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Bobby had identified these as "Scaldicetus grade"  Middle Miocene teeth..   and we have examples of these small 2 inch bulbous teeth that have occurrence (at a minimum) in Peru, Italy, Bakersfield, Ca, and Florida.. 

I am curious on why we seem to have no additional examples from the South East US States Maryland, NC, SC that had numerous Miocene locations for these Whales to exist.  

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4 hours ago, Shellseeker said:

Clearly, I can be wrong . . .

Be interested in your view...   Jack

I agree, Jack.

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