Fullux Posted June 25 Share Posted June 25 Howdy all, Found this large fossil fish vert on Panama City Beach. Any clue of an ID? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hemipristis Posted June 25 Share Posted June 25 Could you show other angles? 1 'Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it.' George Santayana Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fullux Posted June 25 Author Share Posted June 25 9 minutes ago, hemipristis said: Could you show other angles? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fossildude19 Posted June 25 Share Posted June 25 I don't think fish verts are really diagnostic to genus or species. 2 1 Tim - VETERAN SHALE SPLITTER VFOTM --- APRIL - 2015 IPFOTM -- MAY - 2024 _________________________________________________________________________________ "In every walk with nature one receives far more than he seeks." John Muir ~ ~ ~ ~ ><))))( *> About Me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C2fossils Posted June 26 Share Posted June 26 Yup, here in Kansas I have found 4 and only one I was able to id as flathead catfish. But I tried with the smaller ones I found and there is so many that look nearly identical that there is nearly no way to id confidently. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hemipristis Posted June 26 Share Posted June 26 10 hours ago, Fossildude19 said: I don't think fish verts are really diagnostic to genus or species. Respectfully disagree as a general statement. Some yes, some no. Sometimes to genus, sometimes to family, occasionally to species. I have had the opportunity in the past to look at recent-caught tuna, bluefish, drum, billfish, pufferfish and tarpon vertebra when I lived in eastern NC and they do resemble their corresponding fossil specimens posted on Elasmo.com and Smithsonian publications. Not always, of course. The vertebra in question is likely a caudal vertebra from a smaller member of the tuna family 6 'Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it.' George Santayana Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fullux Posted Wednesday at 06:34 PM Author Share Posted Wednesday at 06:34 PM 8 hours ago, hemipristis said: Respectfully disagree as a general statement. Some yes, some no. Sometimes to genus, sometimes to family, occasionally to species. I have had the opportunity in the past to look at recent-caught tuna, bluefish, drum, billfish, pufferfish and tarpon vertebra when I lived in eastern NC and they do resemble their corresponding fossil specimens posted on Elasmo.com and Smithsonian publications. Not always, of course. The vertebra in question is likely a caudal vertebra from a smaller member of the tuna family Might you have an idea as to how old it is? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Kmiecik Posted Wednesday at 06:50 PM Share Posted Wednesday at 06:50 PM (edited) 16 minutes ago, Fullux said: Might you have an idea as to how old it is? For fossils found on the beach that have not weathered from a cliff, it's impossible to nail a time as opposed to a range of time encompassing the time from when a species came into existence until the time it became extinct, unless the formation from which it came can be determined, and then it can only be said that it is from the time period that covers the years over which the formation was created, and that's usually from millions to hundreds of millions of years. Edited Wednesday at 06:51 PM by Mark Kmiecik added info 1 Mark. Fossil hunting is easy -- they don't run away when you shoot at them! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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