Brevicollis Posted Saturday at 07:37 AM Share Posted Saturday at 07:37 AM Hello, I saw this already sold tooth and want to know the species it belongs to. It doesnt seem to match with croc, plesiosaur, or fish. The pictures of it are'nt the clearest, but Im able to spot some slight prismarism only at the base. The rest of the tooth has no prismarism, only enamel patterns. I also saw these two pictures of a Khinjaria acuta tooth, and thought when I compared them, that he might be a candidate. @Praefectus The Khinjaria acuta tooth : The tooth this topic is about : Are good signatures really that important ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coco Posted Saturday at 09:10 AM Share Posted Saturday at 09:10 AM Hi, The size could be useful ! Coco ---------------------- OUTIL POUR MESURER VOS FOSSILES : ici Ma bibliothèque PDF 1 (Poissons et sélaciens récents & fossiles) : ici Ma bibliothèque PDF 2 (Animaux vivants - sans poissons ni sélaciens) : ici Mâchoires sélaciennes récentes : ici Hétérodontiques et sélaciens : ici Oeufs sélaciens récents : ici Otolithes de poissons récents ! ici Un Greg... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brevicollis Posted Saturday at 09:19 AM Author Share Posted Saturday at 09:19 AM @Coco, yea, I forgot to include it Its 1.4 inches or 3.5 cm. Are good signatures really that important ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
North Posted Saturday at 09:47 AM Share Posted Saturday at 09:47 AM Curvature looks bit odd. Like one that Enchodus teeth has. 1 There's no such thing as too many teeth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brevicollis Posted Saturday at 10:11 AM Author Share Posted Saturday at 10:11 AM @North, but Enchodus teeth from that location appear like if they're always white, dont have any prismarism at the base as far as I know, and have an overall different enamel texture than this. I dont think its Enchodus. Are good signatures really that important ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brevicollis Posted Saturday at 10:18 AM Author Share Posted Saturday at 10:18 AM (edited) @North, here are some pictures of one of my Enchodus teeth, same sice, same location. Looks completly different, right ? Much more slender, striations, white, only one front carina, and a more strong curviture. Edited Saturday at 10:20 AM by Brevicollis Are good signatures really that important ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
North Posted Saturday at 11:08 AM Share Posted Saturday at 11:08 AM 50 minutes ago, Brevicollis said: @North, but Enchodus teeth from that location appear like if they're always white, dont have any prismarism at the base as far as I know, and have an overall different enamel texture than this. I dont think its Enchodus. Usually, but those can be brown too. But Im just saying that curvature of the tip is odd on second tooth. Also it looks that it might have some striations, but picture is bit blurry. There's no such thing as too many teeth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brevicollis Posted Saturday at 11:15 AM Author Share Posted Saturday at 11:15 AM Just now, North said: Usually, but those can be brown too. But Im just saying that curvature of the tip is odd on second tooth. Also it looks that it might have some striations, but picture is bit blurry. Might be true, but I still dont think its Enchodus. Are good signatures really that important ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JorisVV Posted Saturday at 01:55 PM Share Posted Saturday at 01:55 PM @pachy-pleuro-whatnot-odon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pachy-pleuro-whatnot-odon Posted Saturday at 04:27 PM Share Posted Saturday at 04:27 PM 6 hours ago, North said: Curvature looks bit odd. Like one that Enchodus teeth has. 5 hours ago, North said: Usually, but those can be brown too. But Im just saying that curvature of the tip is odd on second tooth. Also it looks that it might have some striations, but picture is bit blurry. 2 hours ago, JorisVV said: @pachy-pleuro-whatnot-odon I think this could be a candidate for Khinjaria acuta. At the same time, I agree with @North that the curvature at the base of the tooth is weird, and I hadn't really considered the possibility of Enchodus sp. before. Those would, however, be more laterally compressed, I think... Also, I haven't seen any Enchodus-teeth with facetting at the base of the crown before - at least not come out of Morocco. In addition, the build-up of the tooth, where it's broken, seems more reptile than fish to me. Since I don't think there are any known samples of Khinjaria acuta "in the wild" yet, it's difficult to compare 2 'There's nothing like millions of years of really frustrating trial and error to give a species moral fibre and, in some cases, backbone' -- Terry Pratchett Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Praefectus Posted Saturday at 05:55 PM Share Posted Saturday at 05:55 PM That's a croc tooth. I have more pictures of that tooth somewhere. I bugged the seller about it the week Khinjaria published and went through his whole stock looking for one. I'll see if I can find the pictures with the diagnostic angles. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brevicollis Posted Saturday at 06:05 PM Author Share Posted Saturday at 06:05 PM @Praefectus, would be interesting to know what croc species tho Are good signatures really that important ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jared C Posted 19 hours ago Share Posted 19 hours ago On 6/29/2024 at 11:27 AM, pachy-pleuro-whatnot-odon said: Since I don't think there are any known samples of Khinjaria acuta "in the wild" yet, it's difficult to compare Nick longrich ( who described Khinjaria) posted this Khinjaria tooth from the upper couche III on his instagram. He informally establishes this means that the taxon goes right up to the end of the Maastrichtian 1 “Not only is the universe stranger than we think, it is stranger than we can think” -Werner Heisenberg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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