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Plant? Trace fossil?


bockryan

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Hi all - reposting from the FB group as I know some people here are more active on the Forum: Any ideas on this one? Cassville Shale, so Carboniferous/Permian boundary in Southwest PA, found alongside mostly classic Carboniferous plant fossils like Neuropteris and Macroneuropteris, so a terrestrial/swamp setting. Trace fossil of some kind? A plant? An animal? Geologic? No idea!

 

Difficult to photograph as the relief is pretty shallow - the spiral pattern stands out, detail is relatively poor but hopefully the pattern is unique enough to get an ID

 

Ryan

 

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A welder might get the urge to grab the chipping hammer to tap off slag. :)

I think it's actually the feeding trace Zoophycos though.

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Just now, Rockwood said:

A welder might get the urge to grab the chipping hammer to tap off slag. :)

I think it's actually the feeding trace Zoophycos though.

 

I looked at Zoophycos, but it says that it is known from marine deposits, and most often deep marine deposits, which I why I ruled it out. I saw that it is possible in shallower depths but I haven't seen it associated with a terrestrial deposit.

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8 minutes ago, bockryan said:

 

I looked at Zoophycos, but it says that it is known from marine deposits, and most often deep marine deposits, which I why I ruled it out. I saw that it is possible in shallower depths but I haven't seen it associated with a terrestrial deposit.

Swamps aren't really that terrestrial. They were commonly flooded be marine transgressions and storms as well. 

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Zoophycos has been recorded from shallow and non marine environments. This doesn't quite look like the Zoophycos i am familiar with but i don't have a better suggestion right now

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One has to keep in mind that trace fossils, especially at the ichnogenus level, are based on morphology and not the identity of the maker. 

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It could be a fern fiddlehead.

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Context is critical.

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26 minutes ago, Missourian said:

It could be a fern fiddlehead.

That would explain the slag look better than a trace. And it looks like those could be pinnules. I think you have it. 

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