historianmichael Posted August 1 Share Posted August 1 (edited) I am once again looking for help identifying some micro teeth I collected from a bulk sample of a Late Cretaceous (Maastrichtian) aged outcrop on the Atlantic Coastal Plain of the US. My apologies for the lack of scale. I have put the measurement of each fossil next to the description as well as a guess on what they might be. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thank you! #1 - 2.5mm - ??? #2 - 1.5mm - Rhinobatus sp.? #3 - 1.25mm - Protoplatyrhina renae? #4 - 2mm - Pseudohypolophus mcnultyi? #5 - 2mm - Albulidae indet.? Edited August 1 by historianmichael 3 Follow me on Instagram (@fossil_mike) to check out my personal collection of fossils collected and acquired over more than 15 years of fossil hunting! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikrogeophagus Posted August 1 Share Posted August 1 1) Resembles a worn Rhombodus. There are some tooth positions here in TX that are ascribed to R. binkhorsti that have the same shape. 2) I think you are right. Not familiar with what Rhinobatos species are present on East coast, but here in TX Kemp Clay, Cappetta and Case report R. craddocki and R. uvulatus 3+4) No solid answer for me between "Pseudohypolophus mcnultyi" and Protoplatyrhina renae. I suspect they are both "P. mcnultyi", but I have a hard time differentiating this taxon from Protoplatyrhina. I think P. mcnultyi is supposed to be strongly rhomboidal or hexagonal in outline while P. renae is rounder and generally smaller, but not 100%. Note P. mcnultyi is also a bucket taxon that is reported to be present from the Albian to Maastrichtian and likely represents multiple species. 5) I think you're right Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Dente Posted August 1 Share Posted August 1 1) This looks like a tooth we commonly find in NC that I don't think has been described. They look like an off center Rhombodus. 2) Looks like Rhinobatos 3) Pseudohypolophus 4) Pseudohypolophus 5) Some call these Fisherichthys. This is normally a Paleogene genus, but identical looking teeth are found in the late Cretaceous. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
historianmichael Posted August 1 Author Share Posted August 1 @Mikrogeophagus and @Al Dente, thank you so much for your feedback. The reason that I ascribed Protoplatyrhina renae to this tooth and several others is the appearance of a weak lingual protuberance, which I have noted with an arrow. I read in Welton and Farish's The Collector's Guide to Fossil Sharks and Rays From the Cretaceous of Texas that a lingual protuberance is a distinguishing characteristic of P. renae. What do you think? 1 Follow me on Instagram (@fossil_mike) to check out my personal collection of fossils collected and acquired over more than 15 years of fossil hunting! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikrogeophagus Posted August 2 Share Posted August 2 Ah that's something I was not aware of. I guess similar to Rhinobatos, they possess a "uvula". I'm not sure if that "lingual protuberance" would qualify as a uvula. The ones on Elasmo.com seem to have uvulae that more strongly taper off of the crown when seen from a lateral view. Again, not an expert on this by any means. Hopefully @Al Dente has a more definitive insight. I'll have to go back through some of my specimens and look for uvulae now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Dente Posted August 2 Share Posted August 2 11 hours ago, historianmichael said: The reason that I ascribed Protoplatyrhina renae to this tooth and several others is the appearance of a weak lingual protuberance, which I have noted with an arrow. I read in Welton and Farish's The Collector's Guide to Fossil Sharks and Rays From the Cretaceous of Texas that a lingual protuberance is a distinguishing characteristic of P. renae. What do you think? 9 hours ago, Mikrogeophagus said: Hopefully @Al Dente has a more definitive insight. The original description of Protoplatyrhina says it has a heart-shaped root. Unfortunately, almost all of the papers I have that identified Protoplatyrhina in their fauna show a root that looks identical to Pseudohypolophus. Not sure why they chose Protoplatyrhina over Pseudohypolophus as their genus. The problem is, once one person identifies it that way, everyone else follows. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
historianmichael Posted August 4 Author Share Posted August 4 @Al Dente I completely agree with your point about once one person identifies it one way, everyone else follows. For what it is worth, I have come across at least four teeth that have this lingual protuberance, which seems different from the typical Pseudohypolophus crown. Follow me on Instagram (@fossil_mike) to check out my personal collection of fossils collected and acquired over more than 15 years of fossil hunting! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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