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River find. Partial Tooth/Bone? Need ID


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A friend found this on a gravel bar on a Southern Minnesota river. It is porous and feels like bone. Geologically there is a ton of glacial deposit materail in the area but also some cretatious outcrops. I have my suspicions of what it is but I wanted to get some opinions here based on the photos only. Have not seen it yet in person myself.

 

 

 

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I'm not familiar with that area, so I could absolutely be wrong, but it doesn't look like bone or a tooth to me.

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Looks like it may be agate or petrified wood, but need better close up pictures.

 

 

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Looks to me like a very worn mammoth tooth section. Closer pictures would be needed but given what I can make out it looks like two other specimens I’ve had the luck to hold. 

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On 8/3/2024 at 10:01 PM, Fin Lover said:

I'm not familiar with that area, so I could absolutely be wrong, but it doesn't look like bone or a tooth to me.

 

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2 hours ago, dbrake40 said:

Zoomed-in photos are 50x scale.

Need some better (more detail) pictures than what is provided.

Some good quality close up pictures would be helpful.

 

 

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I stand by my initial id. Very worn mammoth tooth. 

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14 hours ago, dbrake40 said:

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Thanks for the additional close up shots.

This looks like a very nice dendritic agate or opal. Not seeing any wood, bone, tooth or ivory features to make me think it is a fossil.

Would make some beautiful cut slabs and cabochons..

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33 minutes ago, ynot said:

@dbrake40 is your scale in inch or mm?

 

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Here's a few pics of the last specimen I worked on. I could be wrong but I see similarities in what I can see in your pictures. Without seeing it in person it'd be hard to confirm. @ynotmay very well be correct. If it is a mammoth tooth it is very worn down. You can kind of make out the ridge lines and this picture to me is the most indicative. Cutting/surface of tooth would be oriented up:

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19 minutes ago, Titan said:

I see similarities in what I can see in your pictures.

The similarities are superficial and the size is way off.

 

 

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An update here. I work a lot with the folks at the Science Museum of Minnesota. Have donated a lot of specimens over the years. My friend and I presented this specimen to the Paleontologist there and upon visual inspection he indicated he believes it is a partial molar, most likely proboscidean. It has been donated so that he and staff can study it further with better techniques/magnification. If species is ever determined I will update this thread further.

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2 hours ago, dbrake40 said:

An update here. I work a lot with the folks at the Science Museum of Minnesota. Have donated a lot of specimens over the years. My friend and I presented this specimen to the Paleontologist there and upon visual inspection he indicated he believes it is a partial molar, most likely proboscidean. It has been donated so that he and staff can study it further with better techniques/magnification. If species is ever determined I will update this thread further.

Neat!  Thanks for the update.  Anything proboscidean is very cool in my books.

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Confirmation already from the Science Museum of Minnesota:

"After getting it under a microscope, I've concluded it is indeed a mastodon tooth. Albeit a heavily worn one, but it does line up pretty well from the features that can be seen."

 

I told my buddy that's one off the bucket list. Now on to the giant ground Sloth..!

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I'm glad I was wrong!  :JC_doubleup:

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