Ivaldir Posted August 26 Share Posted August 26 (edited) Hey everyone, Lately I found some pieces that appear to have a scale pattern. As I usually dwell coastlines for pleistocene fossils, this is out of my comfort zone. Somehow I hope the pieces I got out of the rock are not fish because I may have destroyed the fish then it's an old quarry and the matrix is very hard. Middle Devonian, Eifelizn-Givetian Ardennen regio of Belgium. I tried my best to take clear pictures with the digital microscope at work. Plant material? Fish? Bryozoan? Coral? Edited August 26 by Ivaldir Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fossildude19 Posted August 26 Share Posted August 26 Where? Tim - VETERAN SHALE SPLITTER VFOTM --- APRIL - 2015 IPFOTM -- MAY - 2024 _________________________________________________________________________________ "In every walk with nature one receives far more than he seeks." John Muir ~ ~ ~ ~ ><))))( *> About Me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivaldir Posted August 26 Author Share Posted August 26 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Fossildude19 said: Where? Ow, forgot! Ardennen region of Belgium. I edited the post Edited August 26 by Ivaldir 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TqB Posted August 26 Share Posted August 26 And a scale for size would be good. Tarquin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TqB Posted August 26 Share Posted August 26 It reminds me of imbricating echinoid plates but I can't make out any pore pairs yet. Tarquin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivaldir Posted August 26 Author Share Posted August 26 13 minutes ago, TqB said: And a scale for size would be good. Edited a photo with some scale in, best I can do for now but gives some idea 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coco Posted August 26 Share Posted August 26 Can we have a picture of the slice (cut), because calcite has so many different crystalline forms that I would not be surprised if it is mineral. Coco 1 ---------------------- OUTIL POUR MESURER VOS FOSSILES : ici Pareidolia : here Ma bibliothèque PDF 1 (Poissons et sélaciens récents & fossiles) : ici Ma bibliothèque PDF 2 (Animaux vivants - sans poissons ni sélaciens) : ici Mâchoires sélaciennes récentes : ici Hétérodontiques et sélaciens : ici Oeufs sélaciens récents : ici Otolithes de poissons récents ! ici Un Greg... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fossildude19 Posted August 26 Share Posted August 26 Cropped and contrasted: Tim - VETERAN SHALE SPLITTER VFOTM --- APRIL - 2015 IPFOTM -- MAY - 2024 _________________________________________________________________________________ "In every walk with nature one receives far more than he seeks." John Muir ~ ~ ~ ~ ><))))( *> About Me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivaldir Posted August 27 Author Share Posted August 27 As asked: pictures of the fracture, as well as another picture of the 'scale' which I made wet. Hopefully this helps! 1. Fracture wet zoomed 2. Fracture wet 3. Fracture dry 4. Wet surface 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coco Posted August 27 Share Posted August 27 Thank you for the new photos. Unfortunately (or fortunately) it does not correspond to a flat calcite crystallization, on the slice I do not distinguish the scaleneohedral form of broken calcite. So it’s still a mystery to me, I have no idea what it can be. Coco 1 1 ---------------------- OUTIL POUR MESURER VOS FOSSILES : ici Pareidolia : here Ma bibliothèque PDF 1 (Poissons et sélaciens récents & fossiles) : ici Ma bibliothèque PDF 2 (Animaux vivants - sans poissons ni sélaciens) : ici Mâchoires sélaciennes récentes : ici Hétérodontiques et sélaciens : ici Oeufs sélaciens récents : ici Otolithes de poissons récents ! ici Un Greg... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westcoast Posted August 27 Share Posted August 27 This is fascinating. The internal structure revealed in the fracture in 'Photo 2 Fracture wet' is very curious and should be a good clue, however I don't have any good ideas. Hopefully somebody here will have seen it before... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivaldir Posted August 28 Author Share Posted August 28 (edited) Maybe @FossilDAWG? Or @paleoflor if the option of plant material is on the table Edited August 28 by Ivaldir Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TqB Posted August 28 Share Posted August 28 I'm wondering if this is a bryozoan with lunaria at the apertures. There are possible autozooecial tubes, with pores in the middle of the crescents/lunaria. 6 Tarquin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivaldir Posted August 28 Author Share Posted August 28 @TqB thanks for looking into it! I can't really answer on it as I don't know anything about bryzoa. Any other knowledgeable people to tag on this topic? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westcoast Posted August 29 Share Posted August 29 I think @TqB may be correct. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivaldir Posted August 30 Author Share Posted August 30 Thanks everyone, we'll keep it at bryzoa at the moment. If I ever come up with a species or something more detailed I'll post it here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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