New Members Mina Faris Posted August 30 New Members Share Posted August 30 Hi all, Please help me identify what this is. Short story: I found this piece along with shark teeth and meteorites in Whales Valley, Egypt, maybe 15 years ago. From what I can see, it has the shape of a lower jaw of a mammal, and the teeth look like human teeth. Additionally, the shape suggests that the animal was hit by a meteorite, as it has a feel and shape similar to the other meteorites I found. The size of it is 3.5 cm x 3 cm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ludwigia Posted August 30 Share Posted August 30 The first two photos are not clear enough to be able to make out any details. The last ones are not teeth. Greetings from the Lake of Constance. Roger http://www.steinkern.de/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New Members Mina Faris Posted August 30 Author New Members Share Posted August 30 The first two pictures show the dimensions. the third picture shows the back of the fossil. The fourth one show the teeth of the lower jaw, not one tooth! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
val horn Posted August 30 Share Posted August 30 I am sorry but I see only a rock no teeth no jaw no bone 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coco Posted August 30 Share Posted August 30 These are not teeth : no enamel, no typical or recognizable shape of one or more teeth. Rock farcical ! Coco ---------------------- OUTIL POUR MESURER VOS FOSSILES : ici Pareidolia : here Ma bibliothèque PDF 1 (Poissons et sélaciens récents & fossiles) : ici Ma bibliothèque PDF 2 (Animaux vivants - sans poissons ni sélaciens) : ici Mâchoires sélaciennes récentes : ici Hétérodontiques et sélaciens : ici Oeufs sélaciens récents : ici Otolithes de poissons récents ! ici Un Greg... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New Members Mina Faris Posted August 30 Author New Members Share Posted August 30 I hope this notation helps you visualize the teeth better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fossildude19 Posted August 30 Share Posted August 30 Mineral vein in a rock. Not teeth. 1 Tim - VETERAN SHALE SPLITTER VFOTM --- APRIL - 2015 IPFOTM -- MAY - 2024 _________________________________________________________________________________ "In every walk with nature one receives far more than he seeks." John Muir ~ ~ ~ ~ ><))))( *> About Me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coco Posted August 30 Share Posted August 30 (edited) We have seen what you underline, but they are not teeth ! We have dozens of requests for identification per day, and every day we try to explain nicely why most of the time the requests do not concern teeth, snake skulls, dinosaur eggs or other "mind views" brought by the pareidiolia (normal activity of our brain that makes us recognize for example faces in clouds). Coco Edited August 30 by Coco ---------------------- OUTIL POUR MESURER VOS FOSSILES : ici Pareidolia : here Ma bibliothèque PDF 1 (Poissons et sélaciens récents & fossiles) : ici Ma bibliothèque PDF 2 (Animaux vivants - sans poissons ni sélaciens) : ici Mâchoires sélaciennes récentes : ici Hétérodontiques et sélaciens : ici Oeufs sélaciens récents : ici Otolithes de poissons récents ! ici Un Greg... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digit Posted August 30 Share Posted August 30 3 hours ago, Mina Faris said: Additionally, the shape suggests that the animal was hit by a meteorite, as it has a feel and shape similar to the other meteorites I found. As mentioned above, the "teeth" in your "jaw" are merely an eroded vein of a more durable (more silicified) mineral. The collective experience of the membership on this forum has allowed us to differentiate between the many fossils and the numerous rocks that people believe are fossils. New members who are just learning about fossils often mistake features in rocks for something familiar. Pareidolia, as mentioned above, factors into this. Jaws containing teeth have a recognizable structure and would not be distorted into the shape you believe you are seeing from being hit with a meteorite. Animals (and plants and just about everything else) that gets hit by a meteorite of significant size are pretty much instantly vaporized. We've had new members try to rewrite science, physics and logic by explaining their own theory on how their "fossil" formed involving being flash frozen and instantly fossilized by volcanoes erupting under glaciers and even more improbable methods. We are a science based forum here and enjoy discussing (and helping to identify) a variety of fossil types. Being science based we stick to reality so I'm hoping the tag 'alien' was meant to be humorous and not intended to suggest this was a jaw of an alien hit by a meteorite. Cheers. -Ken 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJB Posted August 30 Share Posted August 30 Pareidolia RB 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New Members Mina Faris Posted August 30 Author New Members Share Posted August 30 So it’s just a rock! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kane Posted August 30 Share Posted August 30 Unfortunately, this seems to be the case. Teeth are not fused to the bone fundament (exception might be very early placoderm fishies where the teeth were simply bone outgrowths). ...How to Philosophize with a Hammer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New Members Mina Faris Posted August 30 Author New Members Share Posted August 30 What kind of rock is it then? Does it have any value to it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fin Lover Posted August 30 Share Posted August 30 We don't discuss values or prices on the forum. 1 Fin Lover Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New Members Mina Faris Posted August 30 Author New Members Share Posted August 30 I meant is it rare to find it or is it a normal rock? Who mentioned the money here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fin Lover Posted August 30 Share Posted August 30 (edited) 40 minutes ago, Mina Faris said: Does it have any value to it? 7 minutes ago, Mina Faris said: Who mentioned the money here? I took your question about value to mean monetary value. If you were asking about scientific significance, I apologize for the misunderstanding. Edited August 30 by Fin Lover Fin Lover Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New Members Mina Faris Posted August 30 Author New Members Share Posted August 30 It’s all good. Yes, I’m asking about the significance in scientific terms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digit Posted August 30 Share Posted August 30 9 minutes ago, Mina Faris said: I meant is it rare to find it or is it a normal rock? Who mentioned the money here? Monetary value is an often asked question by new members to this forum. Without the adjective 'scientific' preceding the word 'value' that is what I (and likely others) assumed you meant. We prefer to discuss fossils and the science of paleontology and leave valuation to other forms of social media and so we cut off talk of pricing pretty quickly. Your piece is a weathered piece of rock with what appears to be a mineral vein of whitish material running through it. There is no particular scientific value to this specimen though mineralogists and collectors of mineral specimens could have interest merely to attempt to identify the minerals involved. Beyond that it is simply a rock with an interesting texture--one that many of us would have picked up if we found it in the field but likely a 'leaverite'. Cheers. -Ken 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New Members Mina Faris Posted August 30 Author New Members Share Posted August 30 Okay thank you all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digit Posted August 30 Share Posted August 30 No problem. We enjoy discussing fossils here. Come back when you've found some other interesting rocks. Most fossils show more distinctive biological structures in them. Keep looking down and you might come across some actual fossils which we'd be happy to help ID. Cheers. -Ken Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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