Kohler Palaeontology Posted Thursday at 08:57 AM Share Posted Thursday at 08:57 AM Hello everybody, My mother and I went to Melbourne for the first time (and this was my first time flying, getting an Uber and getting Uber Eats) to see the temporary exhibit of Victoria, one of the largest and most complete T-rex's ever found. This is the first time a real T-rex has ever came to Australia. And to see the permeant exhibit of Horridus, the world's most complete Triceratops, also the only real trike in Australia. The photos of both really make them look tiny, but they are GIANT!!!! I was super surprised to see (and be able to touch and hold) real dinosaur fossils from the Prince Creek Formation of Alaska!! to my knowledge, no private collector has any Alaskan dino material. As a country boy, I didn't like the city that much, but it was well worth it to see the fossils. Here is a great PDF that shows a lot about this site: beaumaris_fossil_book_museum_victoria.pdf (bayside.vic.gov.au) We went fossil hunting on Beaumaris beach, on an unfortunate time... there was loads of seaweed covering almost all of the ground the locals said it was the worst they'd ever seen it! so we couldn't get to the main site. and the low tide wasn't a very low tide. We did find some fossils though, tones of urchins (likely the genus Lovenia) I did find a couple of interesting bone-like structures that I would like to get identified. I know they just look like funny-looking rocks, but I've seen a lot of fossils from this beach that even I would think is just a funny-looking rock, so I really just picked up anything that remotely resembled something. Also, since the urchins have a bleached saltwater layer on them, should I quickly dip them in vinegar to remove it or not? I didn't do a no-background style photo, just wanted to make sure these are fossils first. Although, a lot of these are probably just ironstone concretions or nodules. I understand doing large photos like this is a bit inconvenient, but I need the photos to be the best quality. There are 8 items to be identified. The site was covered in seaweed and stank! we only had a couple hours there and the smell got to our heads. Bit unlucky. Over to the right, where it is just thick sludge, it was fairly deep, so the other side to find teeth was not accessible. No. 1 I don't know what any of these could be but maybe an ear bone??? No. 2 I don't think this is even a bone, it's probably ironstone, but it is hollow and kind of has a bone-like texture where the break is. No. 3 I found heaps of these along the beach, pretty sure they're nothing, but I don't know. No 4 Bone-like texture?? No. 5 Bone-like texture?? No. 6 Not sure, but maybe a bone?? No. 7 I really do think this is just a rock, but maybe it's not. Not really seeing a bone-like texture but looks interesting and has those holes which is probably geologic. No. 8 Just an ironstone blob or burrow cast?? That's all. Kind Regards Kohler Palaeontology Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mahnmut Posted Thursday at 09:13 AM Share Posted Thursday at 09:13 AM Hi. Sorry to say I think these are all concretions. Ironstone concretions often end up hollow because there is soft material inside a harder layer. The results are sometimes called fairy pots or something like that. Best egards, J 1 1 4 Try to learn something about everything and everything about something Thomas Henry Huxley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kohler Palaeontology Posted Thursday at 09:15 AM Author Share Posted Thursday at 09:15 AM Thanks for the reply. Yeah, that's what I was thinking Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advantage Posted Thursday at 12:19 PM Share Posted Thursday at 12:19 PM 3 hours ago, Mahnmut said: Hi. Sorry to say I think these are all concretions. Ironstone concretions often end up hollow because there is soft material inside a harder layer. The results are sometimes called fairy pots or something like that. Best egards, J Yes all ironstone nodules sadly. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coco Posted Thursday at 01:21 PM Share Posted Thursday at 01:21 PM Do not soak your sea urchins in vinegar ! It eats the calcite, mineral component of sea urchins. To remove the white traces of salt water, simply soak them in fresh water by changing the bath several times. I’d like to see your Lovenia Coco 1 ---------------------- OUTIL POUR MESURER VOS FOSSILES : ici Pareidolia : here Ma bibliothèque PDF 1 (Poissons et sélaciens récents & fossiles) : ici Ma bibliothèque PDF 2 (Animaux vivants - sans poissons ni sélaciens) : ici Mâchoires sélaciennes récentes : ici Hétérodontiques et sélaciens : ici Oeufs sélaciens récents : ici Otolithes de poissons récents ! ici Un Greg... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kohler Palaeontology Posted Thursday at 09:41 PM Author Share Posted Thursday at 09:41 PM (edited) Ok, thanks for the advice! I knew vinegar would eat away at them, just wanted to know if a quick bath would work, and then immediately dip them in water. I will probably prep them using the method you recommended over the next day or two and post a photo of them. We found 19 of them!! (a couple were given to us by other fossil hunters). No completely whole ones unfortunately, but we did get some almost whole ones, I have some other Lovenia that were given to me, but this was my first time finding them myself, and still the first one I found is still the most complete one Edited Thursday at 10:18 PM by Kohler Palaeontology Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
val horn Posted Thursday at 11:38 PM Share Posted Thursday at 11:38 PM 19 sea urchins sounds like a very good day. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kohler Palaeontology Posted Saturday at 12:17 AM Author Share Posted Saturday at 12:17 AM I will photograph the Lovenia woodsi soon as I have finished cleaning them, but I also found this at Beaumaris which I simply cannot identify, is it an urchin? or something else? I thought maybe a worn fish tooth, but I really don't know. Any help is appreciated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Dente Posted Saturday at 09:21 AM Share Posted Saturday at 09:21 AM 9 hours ago, Kohler Palaeontology said: is it an urchin? or something else? I’m not certain, but it resembles a pair of barnacles growing side by side. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kohler Palaeontology Posted Saturday at 10:25 AM Author Share Posted Saturday at 10:25 AM 1 hour ago, Al Dente said: I’m not certain, but it resembles a pair of barnacles growing side by side. It very well could be, but it doesn't look like any Barnacle fossils I have seen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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