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Tightly coiled cyrtoconic nautiloid found in Middle Ordovician Deschambault formation (Trenton Group), Canada.


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Hey there guys.

 

First of all, I would like to deeply apologize for the potato phone, over exposed, shaky, early Blackberry quality of the picture. This is not what I am used to post here on TFF and I am somewhat ashamed of this footage. I took the picture late at night and did not verify the image quality before leaving the site, which is far away from home. I will acknowledge and accept every insult sent towards me for this rookie mistake. Help me God.

 

But there it is. We were at the end of a rope climbing course in Portneuf county, Québec province, Canada; when we stumbled upon a well preserved tightly cyrtoconic nautiloid cephalopod. The fossil was found in the Middle Ordovician Deschambault limestone formation (Trenton Group), on a horizontal limestone bed by a small river. The specimen in 10 centimeters across (10x10 cm, or 10 cm diameter).  Chambers and septas could clearly be observed in the shell (even on the terrible/punishable by prison picture), but not the siphuncle. 

 

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Since this is the first cyrtoconic nautiloid I find in this area, I would like to read your educated guesses on which Order or Family this nautiloid could belong to. After a short chat with OpenAI, we narrowed it down to a possible Tarphycerida, but I'd like to read you guys instead since human experience and judgment is much more reliable that actual AI.

 

What Order/Family do you think it belongs to?

 

Thank you very much.

 

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A clearer picture that shows detail, would help to get a more accurate ID.

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With this pronounced blur, I imagine you swinging from a rope of 30 m in a strong wind ! :default_rofl:

 

Sorry, I can’t help you.

 

Coco

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22 minutes ago, Coco said:

With this pronounced blur, I imagine you swinging from a rope of 30 m in a strong wind ! :default_rofl:

 

Sorry, I can’t help you.

 

Coco

The hardest part was clicking the camera button right in time when the rope swung across the fossil. GOT IT.

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Better, in focus pictures are needed to be able to say anything intelligent about this. :shrug:

About all that can be said is that it could be one of the Tarphyceridae.

 

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with "sutures" outlined:

 

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AI is quite terrible for identifying fossils.  :( :shakehead:  The technology just isn't there yet.

 

Take anything that AI told you, and toss it out the window.

 

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Apologies don't help in this case. I guess you need to climb back up there to get a better focussed photo.

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