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Hi, my 7 year old son found this on the beach at Compton Bay, Isle of Wight, UK. The beach is known for fossils and he's convinced it's a tooth of some kind. My husband thinks it's a stone tool and I think it's probably a rock. Any ideas? Fortunately we had a very appropriate ruler for scale! Please forgive the stained sofa (holiday cottage). We did find an actual fossil too, of a sea urchin, which was exciting but managed to identify that one through Google Lens. Apologies if I am wasting anyone's time.

 

*Edited to read stone TOOL rather than stone STOOL - awkward error!

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There is no enamel or bilateral symmetry, it is not a tooth. However, can we see your sea urchin ?

 

Coco

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Hi Coco, yes of course. Here it is. Via Google Lens and a bit of internet research, I think it's temnocidaris sceptrifera but I'm really happy to be corrected as fossils are 100% not our area of expertise! I'd love to know how old it is roughly too. We found it yesterday on the same beach. Apologies that the photo doesn't meet the forum's image guidelines of plain background etc, I wasn't planning on posting it.

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OK, this is the print of a regular sea urchin tuber, but with so few elements it will be difficult to say more, except that it belongs probably to a cidarid.

 

 

Coco

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Paréidolie : [url=https://www.thefossilforum.com/topic/144611-pareidolia-explanations-and-examples/#comment-1520032]here[/url]

Ma bibliothèque PDF 1 (Poissons et sélaciens récents & fossiles) : ici
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Mâchoires sélaciennes récentes : ici
Hétérodontiques et sélaciens : ici
Oeufs sélaciens récents : ici
Otolithes de poissons récents ! ici

Un Greg...

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Thank-you, that's really helpful. I thought it was that specific one because of this really close photo match that came up on Google but just happy to know it's a sea urchin and a fossil generally!

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All regular sea urchins (many different species) have tubers, larger or smaller, pierced or not, crenellated or not, tight or not, much or little, but the tubers are not the only distinguishing elements to identify a species. We also need ambulacra, interamulacrair plates, gonopores etc... I would not risk any name with so little information.

 

Coco

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Paréidolie : [url=https://www.thefossilforum.com/topic/144611-pareidolia-explanations-and-examples/#comment-1520032]here[/url]

Ma bibliothèque PDF 1 (Poissons et sélaciens récents & fossiles) : ici
Ma bibliothèque PDF 2 (Animaux vivants - sans poissons ni sélaciens) : ici
Mâchoires sélaciennes récentes : ici
Hétérodontiques et sélaciens : ici
Oeufs sélaciens récents : ici
Otolithes de poissons récents ! ici

Un Greg...

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Thanks so much for your help on both. Do you know vaguely how old the fossil might be? I mean very vaguely... like 10,000 years or 1million or something? 

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No, because I don’t know the geology of your island, but others will certainly intervene. That said, you are right, the age of the sediments where they were found is important for making good determinations.

 

Coco

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Paréidolie : [url=https://www.thefossilforum.com/topic/144611-pareidolia-explanations-and-examples/#comment-1520032]here[/url]

Ma bibliothèque PDF 1 (Poissons et sélaciens récents & fossiles) : ici
Ma bibliothèque PDF 2 (Animaux vivants - sans poissons ni sélaciens) : ici
Mâchoires sélaciennes récentes : ici
Hétérodontiques et sélaciens : ici
Oeufs sélaciens récents : ici
Otolithes de poissons récents ! ici

Un Greg...

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(e) :)

 

Coco

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OUTIL POUR MESURER VOS FOSSILES : ici

Paréidolie : [url=https://www.thefossilforum.com/topic/144611-pareidolia-explanations-and-examples/#comment-1520032]here[/url]

Ma bibliothèque PDF 1 (Poissons et sélaciens récents & fossiles) : ici
Ma bibliothèque PDF 2 (Animaux vivants - sans poissons ni sélaciens) : ici
Mâchoires sélaciennes récentes : ici
Hétérodontiques et sélaciens : ici
Oeufs sélaciens récents : ici
Otolithes de poissons récents ! ici

Un Greg...

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Welcome to the forum!  You are correct on the first item...just a rock.

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Isle of wight has cretaceous chalk through the centre.

Maybe the echinoid is from that?

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