astron Posted September 27, 2012 Author Share Posted September 27, 2012 I too collected under a bridge: I then bumped my head on it when I stood up.... I didn't imagine you were that tall Nice hunting ... bridge!!! Everything is accompanied by their advantages and disadvantages though... Astrinos P. Damianakis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
astron Posted September 27, 2012 Author Share Posted September 27, 2012 Hello all! As I promised, I came back to show the final results of the above trip ... and not only. Tough presentation nearly like with the difficult prep. To start with the first (and basic) rock I had taken with me, here are 3 birds eye views after the prep. To note that the hole rock ended up to 37 x 22 cm in size. Pic 1, The first side Pic 2. The second side closed and Pic 3. The second side open as I could. Astrinos P. Damianakis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
astron Posted September 27, 2012 Author Share Posted September 27, 2012 (edited) To enter in some details, the shells first. There are 14 bivalves of 5 different species and 11 gastropods of 5 different species, as well, all around the rock. A strong representative of the shells of this area and epoch... To clarify that some shells (as the more bivalves and turitellas) were cropped out and I have placed them back to their original position, while the others (as the two gastropods molds at the side of the rock) have never been removed. My favorite shells are the opalized conus diversiformis, that is my first find of this preservation ever, and the two gastropods internal molds, as well... Edited September 27, 2012 by astron Astrinos P. Damianakis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
astron Posted September 27, 2012 Author Share Posted September 27, 2012 To come now to the carbonized parts of that rock, here are the pcs of the bigger carboized area... Astrinos P. Damianakis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
astron Posted September 27, 2012 Author Share Posted September 27, 2012 And to finish with the fossils of that rock, here are pics of the minor carbonized spots on it... Astrinos P. Damianakis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
astron Posted September 27, 2012 Author Share Posted September 27, 2012 To pass into easier things, these are the 3 pieces I have extracted from the boulder as described previously... The first two pieces in two pics each (front and back side) To clarify that they were too friable and I have used my super glue to keep them alive... Astrinos P. Damianakis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
astron Posted September 27, 2012 Author Share Posted September 27, 2012 Moreover, I visited the same place some days later and I found two more relative items. Here is the first one and two close up shots of the carbonized area. Astrinos P. Damianakis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
astron Posted September 27, 2012 Author Share Posted September 27, 2012 The last find was a seed like structure 5 x 2,5 cm found into a concretion close to all above. There was a '' seed'' in the inside but unfortunately the most part of it was destroyed at the time of the concretion opening... Here are pics of the concretion and of its contents... Astrinos P. Damianakis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
astron Posted September 27, 2012 Author Share Posted September 27, 2012 And here are details of the saved part of the ''seed''. Astrinos P. Damianakis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
astron Posted September 27, 2012 Author Share Posted September 27, 2012 (edited) Close the day with a parenthesis that is relative with this thread. I had the great joy and honor to accept a visit of nice people some days ago. It was the TFF member Pascal Sissiou with his wife and Mr. Vasilis Simitzis, Geologist, Curator of the Paleontological Museum of Rethymno, Crete and President the Dept. of Western Crete of The Hellenic Speleological Society. Pascal is a good friend of mine and I have known him through TFF. He is of a low profile here in TFF, but he is a great collector with personal exhibitions in Germany, where he lives permanently and deeply knowledgeable in paleontological and geological issues. Vasilis is a great man and scientist deeply knowledgeable (more than his studies in geology) mainly in the local paleontological themes due to his works with the paleontological Museum of Rethymno. When they visited me I didn't know what to ask them first... One of my basic questions had to do with the above finds (except with the ''seed'' that wasn't found yet) and Mr. Simitzis had answered to me like this: ''Exceptional finds and I would endagered the aspect that the plant material here could be phoenix sp. roots. They grow up that way. I am not sure without any laboratory examination of this stuff but this is my first opinion''. Are there any more opinions here??? Thanks for viewing and for the help in advance... Edited September 27, 2012 by astron Astrinos P. Damianakis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ludwigia Posted September 27, 2012 Share Posted September 27, 2012 Nice to meet your friends. Looks like you're keeping good company. And congrats on your rare plant material. Greetings from the Lake of Constance. Roger http://www.steinkern.de/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry Dactyll Posted September 28, 2012 Share Posted September 28, 2012 Astrinos.... The rock with all the shells in is spectacular....Great to have some expert help with your collection... Cheers Steve... And Welcome if your a New Member... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrangellian Posted September 28, 2012 Share Posted September 28, 2012 (edited) Astrinos, I agree with Steve, the chunk with shells is very interesting. Lots going on there! The shells that are now just internal casts appear to have some 'shell' remaining... too bad you couldn't retain the outer shell surfaces. it appears to be very soft, does it crumble when you try to expose it, no matter what you do? About the carbonized wood material, some of it looks like it has sand-filled Teredo borings. I have a couple pieces that look very similar, from Oligocene not far from me. Edited September 28, 2012 by Wrangellian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
astron Posted September 28, 2012 Author Share Posted September 28, 2012 Nice to meet your friends. Looks like you're keeping good company. And congrats on your rare plant material. Indeed, Roger, nice to meet friends, moreover if they come from TFF... Thanks for the nice comment... Astrinos P. Damianakis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
astron Posted September 28, 2012 Author Share Posted September 28, 2012 Astrinos.... The rock with all the shells in is spectacular....Great to have some expert help with your collection... Undoubtedly, Steve, the big diversity of life that this rock represents, makes it one of my favorite finds... Thank you for the comment Astrinos P. Damianakis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
astron Posted September 28, 2012 Author Share Posted September 28, 2012 (edited) Astrinos, I agree with Steve, the chunk with shells is very interesting. Lots going on there! The shells that are now just internal casts appear to have some 'shell' remaining... too bad you couldn't retain the outer shell surfaces. it appears to be very soft, does it crumble when you try to expose it, no matter what you do? About the carbonized wood material, some of it looks like it has sand-filled Teredo borings. I have a couple pieces that look very similar, from Oligocene not far from me. Eric, Your post is of a high interest, I'd say equal to the interest this find has brought to me!!! In what it concerns the shells you refered to, in oposition to the matrix that was possibly the hardest I have ever handled, these shells were disoved into powder. So, my wish and aim was to save at least the casts and under these conditions I consider it as a success and I am very satisfied with it since I believe it was the best possible... To come to your thought of sand-filled teredo borings, I believe you are right with it. In your opinion, are we talking about the same thing inside the woody pieces I have extracted from the boulder that was close to the above rock??? A basic difference between the two pieces I think is the outer coverage of the borings. The cover of the borings you have refered to is carbonized material, as I think it should be, while in the second case the cover of the ''borings'' is a thin bony like stucture that makes them distinctive from the carbonized wood they are embedded... What do you think? Thank you very much for the nice comment and for the important help. Edited September 29, 2012 by astron Astrinos P. Damianakis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
astron Posted October 3, 2012 Author Share Posted October 3, 2012 (edited) I had the pleasure of a telephon contact with Dr. G. Iliopoulos, Paleontologist in the University of Patras, a while before and (judging from my presentation above) his opinion on what it concerns this plant material is that it's about wood pieces, without being possible to determine the plant species they come from. To do this an in laboratory examination is required. After this the aspect that it's about wood pieces with Teredo shipworms borings is valid and if any more info, I'll update... Edited October 3, 2012 by astron Astrinos P. Damianakis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
astron Posted October 4, 2012 Author Share Posted October 4, 2012 Hello all. The above finds pushed me to pay the roadcut one more visit. I stopped over an about 70 m long road side where nearly all the day was devoted. The difficulty was to step over the pebbles and coral bits on the slope. One wrong movement would find me rolling down with a leg or an arm or who knows what broken... So, I went ahead carefully and the finds of the day are following... Astrinos P. Damianakis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
astron Posted October 4, 2012 Author Share Posted October 4, 2012 Some crassostrea sp. oysters... Astrinos P. Damianakis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
astron Posted October 4, 2012 Author Share Posted October 4, 2012 Some more crassostrea sp. oysters... Astrinos P. Damianakis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
astron Posted October 4, 2012 Author Share Posted October 4, 2012 Even more crassostrea sp. oysters... Astrinos P. Damianakis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
astron Posted October 4, 2012 Author Share Posted October 4, 2012 (edited) Porites sp. corals pieces... Edited October 4, 2012 by astron Astrinos P. Damianakis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
astron Posted October 4, 2012 Author Share Posted October 4, 2012 (edited) Two more Porites sp. corals samples. First pic a brachiopod on this piece. Second pic a well washed up by the rain big colony divided in a lot of small pieces, The days I had the patience to stick them to one another had been left back, though... Edited October 4, 2012 by astron Astrinos P. Damianakis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
astron Posted October 4, 2012 Author Share Posted October 4, 2012 Some heliastrea sp. (?) scleractinian coals... Astrinos P. Damianakis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
astron Posted October 4, 2012 Author Share Posted October 4, 2012 Some favites sp. corals... Astrinos P. Damianakis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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