JohnJ Posted August 29, 2013 Share Posted August 29, 2013 Astrinos, you still astound me. Your photo essay is marvelous. Thank you for taking the time and well done. The human mind has the ability to believe anything is true. - JJ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrangellian Posted August 30, 2013 Share Posted August 30, 2013 Yes, great photo essay and great fossil! Can't say I've ever found a fish quite like that, myself, even at the McAbee site. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Missourian Posted August 30, 2013 Share Posted August 30, 2013 After 2 hours of additional prep work at home this is the final result... Over all view. DSC_0042.JPG Part[attachment DSC_0044.JPG And the counterpart DSC_0043.JPG It's about a 12,5 cm long ray-finned fish belonging to the Actinopterygii class.. If anyone has any further suggestions on a more exact id, it would be appropriately appreciated. The preservation of this thing is amazing at least to my eyes. Closing to clarify that the hole fossil is absolutely pure with not any helpful material added on it! Nice. A red herring? Context is critical. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ludwigia Posted August 30, 2013 Share Posted August 30, 2013 Nice work, Astrinos and an excellent result! Greetings from the Lake of Constance. Roger http://www.steinkern.de/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fossildude19 Posted August 30, 2013 Share Posted August 30, 2013 Wonderful presentation, Astrinos, not to mention an outstanding find! Thank you for posting this. Regards, Tim - VETERAN SHALE SPLITTER VFOTM --- APRIL - 2015 IPFOTM -- MAY - 2024 _________________________________________________________________________________ "In every walk with nature one receives far more than he seeks." John Muir ~ ~ ~ ~ ><))))( *> About Me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry Dactyll Posted August 30, 2013 Share Posted August 30, 2013 Astrinos....Great work my friend... Cheers Steve... And Welcome if your a New Member... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
astron Posted August 31, 2013 Author Share Posted August 31, 2013 (edited) John, Eric, Missourian, Roger, Tim, Steve,Thanks a lot for the feedback! Missourian, one more thanks for the help with the idTo pass into the fish in pending..., the great majority of them are small Bregmaceros albyi, with the strange string like appendages under the head to the back (pelvic rays)...For today, here is one of the bigger samples of them nicely preserved. Some more are to follow next days... Edited September 5, 2013 by astron Astrinos P. Damianakis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nala Posted August 31, 2013 Share Posted August 31, 2013 The details on the fishes are really stunning,great work again Astrinos! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrangellian Posted August 31, 2013 Share Posted August 31, 2013 That one is a gem!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
astron Posted September 3, 2013 Author Share Posted September 3, 2013 (edited) Gery and Eric, Thanks a lot my friends for the comments Here is one more Bregmaceros albyi fish with the strange sting like appendages under the head (pelvic rays)flying away... Edited September 5, 2013 by astron Astrinos P. Damianakis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auspex Posted September 3, 2013 Share Posted September 3, 2013 ...Here is one more Bregmaceros albyi fish with the strange sting like appendages under the head flying away... This almost looks like something else superimposed on the fish; a shrimp or something? "There has been an alarming increase in the number of things I know nothing about." - Ashleigh Ellwood Brilliant “Try to learn something about everything and everything about something.” - Thomas Henry Huxley >Paleontology is an evolving science. >May your wonders never cease! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piranha Posted September 3, 2013 Share Posted September 3, 2013 Here is one more Bregmaceros albyi fish with the strange sting like appendages under the head flying away... This almost looks like something else superimposed on the fish; a shrimp or something? The 'appendages' are the pelvic rays bent forward. In Bregmaceros the pelvic rays have a jugular position. The attached figured species has an additional occipital vertical ray. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auspex Posted September 3, 2013 Share Posted September 3, 2013 The 'appendages' are the pelvic rays bent forward. In Bregmaceros the pelvic rays have a jugular position. The attached figured species has an additional occipital vertical ray. Bregmaceros.jpg Good job! "There has been an alarming increase in the number of things I know nothing about." - Ashleigh Ellwood Brilliant “Try to learn something about everything and everything about something.” - Thomas Henry Huxley >Paleontology is an evolving science. >May your wonders never cease! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrangellian Posted September 3, 2013 Share Posted September 3, 2013 Scott comes thru again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
astron Posted September 5, 2013 Author Share Posted September 5, 2013 This almost looks like something else superimposed on the fish; a shrimp or something? Yes Chas, I've seen it and it seems to me that rather a scale is there. I don't endanger any more touch on that soft matrix next to the fish, though... Astrinos P. Damianakis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
astron Posted September 5, 2013 Author Share Posted September 5, 2013 The 'appendages' are the pelvic rays bent forward. In Bregmaceros the pelvic rays have a jugular position. The attached figured species has an additional occipital vertical ray. Bregmaceros.jpg Neat job Scott!!! Thanks much for the info!!! Here is one more little guy of this kind (Bregmaceros albyi) in attacking position.... Astrinos P. Damianakis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fossildude19 Posted September 5, 2013 Share Posted September 5, 2013 These are truly remarkable fish, Astrinos! Thank you for posting them, I have been enjoying learning about them, and seeing the wonderful preservation of your finds. Regards, Tim - VETERAN SHALE SPLITTER VFOTM --- APRIL - 2015 IPFOTM -- MAY - 2024 _________________________________________________________________________________ "In every walk with nature one receives far more than he seeks." John Muir ~ ~ ~ ~ ><))))( *> About Me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
astron Posted September 7, 2013 Author Share Posted September 7, 2013 These are truly remarkable fish, Astrinos! Thank you for posting them, I have been enjoying learning about them, and seeing the wonderful preservation of your finds. Regards, Thanks much, my friend, for the nice words! This is one more Bregmaceros albyi fish in strange position with the pelvic rays visible most... Astrinos P. Damianakis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry Dactyll Posted September 7, 2013 Share Posted September 7, 2013 Astrinos...Wow... Some more great finds.... I cant believe the diverse collecting you have access to... Bee's fish, corals plants and giant shells... Whatever next.... Cheers Steve... And Welcome if your a New Member... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
astron Posted September 11, 2013 Author Share Posted September 11, 2013 Astrinos...Wow... Some more great finds.... I cant believe the diverse collecting you have access to... Bee's fish, corals plants and giant shells... Whatever next.... Thanks a lot, my friend, for the nice comments! Hopefully, just some new specimens of all these, like this little silver-strip round herring spratelloides gracilis (part and counterpart), with a ctenoid scale saved on the one part... Astrinos P. Damianakis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry Dactyll Posted September 15, 2013 Share Posted September 15, 2013 Fabulous... I had to look twice.... I never seen a fish preserved in such a position Cheers Steve... And Welcome if your a New Member... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paco Posted September 19, 2013 Share Posted September 19, 2013 (edited) Θα μας τρελάνεις!! Astrine you are on a higher level already... You are finding fantastic stuff of all sorts and all in extraordinary condition and your prep work really makes them stand out... Fantastic! The fish are fascinating, the echinoids also great (the remaining partial spines on your one speciment are actually not on the back but it's underside, the ventrical side). The fossil insect is also a very important find. Did you find it in your fresh-water layers? I can't really see wings just a "shadowy" impression maybe, the belly looks like a bee's, the legs kind of too but I'm not sure. I would guess aquatic larva... If you could get the head or one leg better preped-out maybe that would help... Of course with a stereoscope one could see more detail, get this one to your specialist friends. I haven't had time yet to get my shark teeth pics but I'll do that asap... Your new one looks very nice, most of mine have no roots too, diagenesis dissolves them often but leaves the phosphorous part intact. Keep on digging away to that museum quality Megalodon tooth!!! Edited September 19, 2013 by paco Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
astron Posted September 20, 2013 Author Share Posted September 20, 2013 Fabulous... I had to look twice.... I never seen a fish preserved in such a position Steve, Thanks my friend for the comment So do I... I used to see enroled trilos so far... Astrinos P. Damianakis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
astron Posted September 20, 2013 Author Share Posted September 20, 2013 (edited) Θα μας τρελάνεις!! Astrine you are on a higher level already... You are finding fantastic stuff of all sorts and all in extraordinary condition and your prep work really makes them stand out... Fantastic! The fish are fascinating, the echinoids also great (the remaining partial spines on your one speciment are actually not on the back but it's underside, the ventrical side). The fossil insect is also a very important find. Did you find it in your fresh-water layers? I can't really see wings just a "shadowy" impression maybe, the belly looks like a bee's, the legs kind of too but I'm not sure. I would guess aquatic larva... If you could get the head or one leg better preped-out maybe that would help... Of course with a stereoscope one could see more detail, get this one to your specialist friends. I haven't had time yet to get my shark teeth pics but I'll do that asap... Your new one looks very nice, most of mine have no roots too, diagenesis dissolves them often but leaves the phosphorous part intact. Keep on digging away to that museum quality Megalodon tooth!!! Ευχαριστώ ιδιαίτερα φίλε μου, τόσο για τα σχόλια όσο και για τη βοήθεια!!! Thanks very much my friend, so for your nice comments as for your important help! Your observation with the schizaster is correct... Agree and keep in mind, as well, your thoughts on the insect. A professional prep work and examination is needed to have it cleared out... As for the new fish, they are essentially the first fossils I have found faraway from my village of Panasos... This fossil fish site is in the wider area of my city of Iraklion. Nicely preserved fish indeed, but unfortunately the free hunting spots are desperately reduced... Here is a Spratelloides gracilis herring fish (genus Clupea sp.) in two photos. The silver-goldish glistening on the second pic is absolutely natural (with not any additional material placed on it) and it's distinguished if looking at the item from an oblique position and this happens with the most fish of this area ... Looking forward to seeing your sharks Edited October 24, 2013 by astron Astrinos P. Damianakis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fossildude19 Posted September 20, 2013 Share Posted September 20, 2013 Golden Fish! A rare treasure indeed, Astrinos! I am entranced by the preservation of all of your specimens. Thank you, once again, for showing us the wonders of your island. Regards, Tim - VETERAN SHALE SPLITTER VFOTM --- APRIL - 2015 IPFOTM -- MAY - 2024 _________________________________________________________________________________ "In every walk with nature one receives far more than he seeks." John Muir ~ ~ ~ ~ ><))))( *> About Me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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