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Astrinos, you still astound me. Your photo essay is marvelous. Thank you for taking the time and well done.

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Yes, great photo essay and great fossil! Can't say I've ever found a fish quite like that, myself, even at the McAbee site.

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After 2 hours of additional prep work at home this is the final result...

Over all view. attachicon.gifDSC_0042.JPG

Part[attachment attachicon.gifDSC_0044.JPG

And the counterpart attachicon.gifDSC_0043.JPG

It's about a 12,5 cm long ray-finned fish belonging to the Actinopterygii class..

If anyone has any further suggestions on a more exact id, it would be appropriately appreciated.

The preservation of this thing is amazing at least to my eyes.

Closing to clarify that the hole fossil is absolutely pure with not any helpful material added on it!

Nice.

A red herring? :)

Context is critical.

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Wonderful presentation, Astrinos, not to mention an outstanding find! :wub:

Thank you for posting this.

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Astrinos....Great work my friend...

Cheers Steve... And Welcome if your a New Member... :)

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John, Eric, Missourian, Roger, Tim, Steve,

Thanks a lot for the feedback! ;):)



Missourian, one more thanks for the help with the id
;)


To pass into the fish in pending..., the great majority of them are small Bregmaceros albyi, with the strange string like appendages under the head to the back (pelvic rays)...

For today, here is one of the bigger samples of them nicely preserved. Some more are to follow next days...

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The details on the fishes are really stunning,great work again Astrinos! :goodjob:

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Gery and Eric,

Thanks a lot my friends for the comments ;):)

Here is one more Bregmaceros albyi fish with the strange sting like appendages under the head (pelvic rays)flying away...

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...Here is one more Bregmaceros albyi fish with the strange sting like appendages under the head flying away...

This almost looks like something else superimposed on the fish; a shrimp or something?

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Here is one more Bregmaceros albyi fish with the strange sting like appendages under the head flying away...
This almost looks like something else superimposed on the fish; a shrimp or something?

The 'appendages' are the pelvic rays bent forward. In Bregmaceros the pelvic rays have a jugular position. The attached figured species has an additional occipital vertical ray.

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The 'appendages' are the pelvic rays bent forward. In Bregmaceros the pelvic rays have a jugular position. The attached figured species has an additional occipital vertical ray.

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Good job!

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This almost looks like something else superimposed on the fish; a shrimp or something?

Yes Chas, I've seen it and it seems to me that rather a scale is there. I don't endanger any more touch on that soft matrix next to the fish, though... ;):)

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The 'appendages' are the pelvic rays bent forward. In Bregmaceros the pelvic rays have a jugular position. The attached figured species has an additional occipital vertical ray.

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Neat job Scott!!!

Thanks much for the info!!! ;):1-SlapHands_zpsbb015b76:

Here is one more little guy of this kind (Bregmaceros albyi) in attacking position....

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These are truly remarkable fish, Astrinos!

Thank you for posting them, I have been enjoying learning about them, and seeing the wonderful preservation of your finds.

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These are truly remarkable fish, Astrinos!

Thank you for posting them, I have been enjoying learning about them, and seeing the wonderful preservation of your finds.

Regards,

Thanks much, my friend, for the nice words! ;):)

This is one more Bregmaceros albyi fish in strange position with the pelvic rays visible most...

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Astrinos...Wow... Some more great finds.... I cant believe the diverse collecting you have access to... Bee's fish, corals plants and giant shells... Whatever next....

Cheers Steve... And Welcome if your a New Member... :)

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Astrinos...Wow... Some more great finds.... I cant believe the diverse collecting you have access to... Bee's fish, corals plants and giant shells... Whatever next....

Thanks a lot, my friend, for the nice comments! ;)

Hopefully, just some new specimens of all these, like this little silver-strip round herring spratelloides gracilis (part and counterpart), with a ctenoid scale saved on the one part... :)

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Fabulous... I had to look twice.... I never seen a fish preserved in such a position :D

Cheers Steve... And Welcome if your a New Member... :)

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Θα μας τρελάνεις!!

Astrine you are on a higher level already...

You are finding fantastic stuff of all sorts and all in extraordinary condition and your prep work really makes them stand out... Fantastic!

The fish are fascinating, the echinoids also great (the remaining partial spines on your one speciment are actually not on the back but it's underside, the ventrical side).

The fossil insect is also a very important find. Did you find it in your fresh-water layers? I can't really see wings just a "shadowy" impression maybe, the belly looks like a bee's, the legs kind of too but I'm not sure.

I would guess aquatic larva...

If you could get the head or one leg better preped-out maybe that would help... Of course with a stereoscope one could see more detail, get this one to your specialist friends.

I haven't had time yet to get my shark teeth pics but I'll do that asap... Your new one looks very nice, most of mine have no roots too, diagenesis dissolves them often but leaves the phosphorous part intact.

Keep on digging away to that museum quality Megalodon tooth!!!

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Fabulous... I had to look twice.... I never seen a fish preserved in such a position :D

Steve,

Thanks my friend for the comment ;):)

So do I... I used to see enroled trilos so far... :D

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Θα μας τρελάνεις!!

Astrine you are on a higher level already...

You are finding fantastic stuff of all sorts and all in extraordinary condition and your prep work really makes them stand out... Fantastic!

The fish are fascinating, the echinoids also great (the remaining partial spines on your one speciment are actually not on the back but it's underside, the ventrical side).

The fossil insect is also a very important find. Did you find it in your fresh-water layers? I can't really see wings just a "shadowy" impression maybe, the belly looks like a bee's, the legs kind of too but I'm not sure.

I would guess aquatic larva...

If you could get the head or one leg better preped-out maybe that would help... Of course with a stereoscope one could see more detail, get this one to your specialist friends.

I haven't had time yet to get my shark teeth pics but I'll do that asap... Your new one looks very nice, most of mine have no roots too, diagenesis dissolves them often but leaves the phosphorous part intact.

Keep on digging away to that museum quality Megalodon tooth!!!

Ευχαριστώ ιδιαίτερα φίλε μου, τόσο για τα σχόλια όσο και για τη βοήθεια!!! ;):)

Thanks very much my friend, so for your nice comments as for your important help! ;):)

Your observation with the schizaster is correct... Agree and keep in mind, as well, your thoughts on the insect. A professional prep work and examination is needed to have it cleared out...

As for the new fish, they are essentially the first fossils I have found faraway from my village of Panasos... This fossil fish site is in the wider area of my city of Iraklion. Nicely preserved fish indeed, but unfortunately the free hunting spots are desperately reduced... :(

Here is a Spratelloides gracilis herring fish (genus Clupea sp.) in two photos. The silver-goldish glistening on the second pic is absolutely natural (with not any additional material placed on it) and it's distinguished if looking at the item from an oblique position and this happens with the most fish of this area ...

Looking forward to seeing your sharks ;)

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Golden Fish! :wub:

A rare treasure indeed, Astrinos!

I am entranced by the preservation of all of your specimens.

Thank you, once again, for showing us the wonders of your island.

Regards,

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