docdutronc Posted January 1, 2009 Share Posted January 1, 2009 Hi Brock Happy new year to you and your family Thank you for sharing with us these publications,this paper a the sphenophytes is very interesting, I look forward to the paper on lepidophytes Here is a plate on that I've earned sphenopappy new year I have a problem with my computer!!!! Happy new year to you and your family Thank you for sharing with us these publications, this paper about the sphenophytes is very interesting, I look forward to the paper on lepidophytes Here is a plate about sphenophyllum who I have found ... planche_sphenophyllum.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ebrocklds Posted January 2, 2009 Author Share Posted January 2, 2009 and finally part 2 lepidodendrales. Flora_of_the_Manning_Canyon_Shale__Part_II_Lepidodendrales.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crinus Posted January 4, 2009 Share Posted January 4, 2009 crinus, sounds interesting. please post pics of what you have. i t could very well be the same site.Brock ok, I finally opened up the box of stuff. The newspaper everything was wrapped in is dated Sept 1986. There were a few pieces that may be wood or bark, one piece that is definitely plant (photo below) and lots of the item in the second photo. Do you know what the these may be. Looks like a seed with stuff coming off. I have quite a few of these. They definitely came from you area. L. Gunther showed me the spot. crinus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auspex Posted January 4, 2009 Share Posted January 4, 2009 ...Looks like a seed with stuff coming off... That's different! What size is it? "There has been an alarming increase in the number of things I know nothing about." - Ashleigh Ellwood Brilliant “Try to learn something about everything and everything about something.” - Thomas Henry Huxley >Paleontology is an evolving science. >May your wonders never cease! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docdutronc Posted January 4, 2009 Share Posted January 4, 2009 ok, I finally opened up the box of stuff. The newspaper everything was wrapped in is dated Sept 1986. There were a few pieces that may be wood or bark, one piece that is definitely plant (photo below) and lots of the item in the second photo. Do you know what the these may be. Looks like a seed with stuff coming off. I have quite a few of these. They definitely came from you area. L. Gunther showed me the spot.crinus Hi Crinus I watched your photos with pleasure I recognize a seed URNATOPTERIS is a typical small seed with a tail, a whip in two or three part , look at these lates fom Abbé DEPAPE et CARPENTIER 1913 Fern URNATOPTERIS is not widespread in France in the Carboniferous ,is a small herbaceous form, two species are listed Urnatopteris herbacea Boulay and Urnatopteris tenella Brongniart.... These whips may have a role in transport by wind or water ....., our mother nature adopt appropriate strategies...... best regards bruno Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Nicholas Posted January 4, 2009 Share Posted January 4, 2009 Say, Nick, any clay pits on your island? Not that I've searched out, I've been curious and checked a few locations which may have. The closest to clay pits we have are peat bogs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docdutronc Posted January 4, 2009 Share Posted January 4, 2009 Hi CrinusI watched your photos with pleasure I recognize a seed URNATOPTERIS is a typical small seed with a tail, a whip in two or three part , look at these lates fom Abbé DEPAPE et CARPENTIER 1913 Fern URNATOPTERIS is not widespread in France in the Carboniferous ,is a small herbaceous form, two species are listed Urnatopteris herbacea Boulay and Urnatopteris tenella Brongniart.... These whips may have a role in transport by wind or water ....., our mother nature adopt appropriate strategies...... best regards bruno Hi Brock I also look to your picassaweb pictures ,the picture number 61 is a GNETOPSIS seed,I have reconized the typical tail in three parts..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auspex Posted January 5, 2009 Share Posted January 5, 2009 I find this very exciting; Congratulations Brock and Crinus, and thank you Bruno! "There has been an alarming increase in the number of things I know nothing about." - Ashleigh Ellwood Brilliant “Try to learn something about everything and everything about something.” - Thomas Henry Huxley >Paleontology is an evolving science. >May your wonders never cease! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ebrocklds Posted January 5, 2009 Author Share Posted January 5, 2009 Hi CrinusI watched your photos with pleasure I recognize a seed URNATOPTERIS is a typical small seed with a tail, a whip in two or three part , look at these lates fom Abbé DEPAPE et CARPENTIER 1913 Fern URNATOPTERIS is not widespread in France in the Carboniferous ,is a small herbaceous form, two species are listed Urnatopteris herbacea Boulay and Urnatopteris tenella Brongniart.... These whips may have a role in transport by wind or water ....., our mother nature adopt appropriate strategies...... best regards bruno the seeds you found, Gnetopsis, are fairly common. but i still love finding them. some of them are very small. Lloyd is a great guy, he is getting pretty old now. i just talked with heim about amonth ago. i don't think he gets out much to find stuff anymore. Brock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docdutronc Posted January 6, 2009 Share Posted January 6, 2009 the seeds you found, Gnetopsis, are fairly common. but i still love finding them. some of them are very small.Lloyd is a great guy, he is getting pretty old now. i just talked with heim about amonth ago. i don't think he gets out much to find stuff anymore. Brock Hi Brock I looked in the bibliography on ferns Urnatopteris, in France it is a rare species, the description is based on a specimen found by Boulay in the coalfields of northern France, a second specimen of coal saar lorraine ; Here is a photo of the plate taken from the thesis of Ms. Claudine Brousmiche Specialist sphenopterids ferns, there is a drawing of pinnules of this fern,its work is based on two specimens! there are no photos of Gnetopsis the seed associated with Urnatopteris, I think your findings are really cool and would be interesting to be published in the world of paleobotanists,I personally do not have this type of fern and would like to acquire a specimen and a seed ... best regards bruno Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crinus Posted January 7, 2009 Share Posted January 7, 2009 Hi Brock I looked in the bibliography on ferns Urnatopteris, in France it is a rare species, the description is based on a specimen found by Boulay in the coalfields of northern France, a second specimen of coal saar lorraine ; Here is a photo of the plate taken from the thesis of Ms. Claudine Brousmiche Specialist sphenopterids ferns, there is a drawing of pinnules of this fern,its work is based on two specimens! there are no photos of Gnetopsis the seed associated with Urnatopteris, I think your findings are really cool and would be interesting to be published in the world of paleobotanists,I personally do not have this type of fern and would like to acquire a specimen and a seed ... best regards bruno Bruno If you want the specimens I have, you can have them all. All you have to do is pay the shipping to France. I have no interest in these. It is something I collected a long time ago when I was collecting everything. These days I specialize in crinoids or stuff from two localities in Ontario, Canada. There are the two specimen in the photo and about 5 more seed specimens plus some bark specimens. If interested, contact me by PM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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