Bev Posted May 26, 2016 Author Share Posted May 26, 2016 I can not think of a better home for it (unless it were in mine)!! Nice plate!! Tony Thank you, Tony The more I learn, I realize the less I know. BluffCountryFossils.NET Fossil Adventure Blog Go to my Gallery for images of Fossil Jewelry, Sculpture & Crafts Pinned Posts: Beginner's Guide to Fossil Hunting * Geologic Formation Maps Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prem Posted May 26, 2016 Share Posted May 26, 2016 I have seen a few on e-bay that appeared to be casts...you could see the gray color was painted on the crinoids, often not staying in the lines exactly. The easiest way to determine real from fake is to look at the cross-sections of the crinoid stems themselves...they should stand out from the surrounding matrix and show flat edges where the calcite split along its cleavage planes--most often, there are concentric rings of differing colors in the crinoid stem cross section. In the casts I had seen on-line, there was a solid wall of plaster? resin? where the crinoid stem should have appeared in cross section against the matrix. ---Prem Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prem Posted May 26, 2016 Share Posted May 26, 2016 (edited) Don't buy it! It is a fake. You can see the color of the rock its on differs slightly from the place the actual crinoid shows up. This is a big warning sign! I lost alot of money buying these fakes...however, it IS a very nice fake. (I know. I have several of them). I would be interested in seeing photos of the ones that you have that you believe are fake, so we can educate ourselves better. ---Prem Edited May 26, 2016 by prem Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doushantuo Posted May 26, 2016 Share Posted May 26, 2016 (edited) regarding post nr.11: A lot of the crinoid arms seem to be current oriented?????? And i do mean A LOT.It looks for all the world like someone tried to fake a nice and orderly taphocoenosis. Edited May 26, 2016 by doushantuo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doushantuo Posted May 26, 2016 Share Posted May 26, 2016 http://www.geomuseum.uni-goettingen.de:8001/museum/publications/images/Contributions_of_geosciences/10.3249_3924.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmaier Posted May 26, 2016 Share Posted May 26, 2016 I don't know much about higher-end fake fossils, but there is a detective trick we use for ancient coins. Casting technology has gotten very good, so if I think a coin is a modern cast, I scan around to try to find an exact match. For the higher-end fakes the forgers (or artists, whatever...) will make more than one fake. If you find an exact match, you know it is a modern fake. The ones with the very good detail are difficult to make, so the forger can't afford to only make one copy, there must be more out there. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fossilized6s Posted May 27, 2016 Share Posted May 27, 2016 (edited) I purchased a similar plate to Bevs last year, and it's 100% real with the exception of the very crude crack filler. They're nice show pieces for a nice price. Edited May 27, 2016 by fossilized6s ~Charlie~ "There are those that look at things the way they are, and ask why.....i dream of things that never were, and ask why not?" ~RFK ->Get your Mosasaur print ->How to spot a fake Trilobite ->How to identify a CONCRETION from a DINOSAUR EGG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bev Posted May 27, 2016 Author Share Posted May 27, 2016 I purchased a similar plate to Bevs last year, and it's 100% real with the exception of the very crude crack filler. 2016-05-26 21.23.16.jpg They're nice show pieces for a nice price. That is a BEAUTIFUL plate! I like how distinct yours are. These were floating crinoids and I think that is why mine show a lot of wave action. The more I learn, I realize the less I know. BluffCountryFossils.NET Fossil Adventure Blog Go to my Gallery for images of Fossil Jewelry, Sculpture & Crafts Pinned Posts: Beginner's Guide to Fossil Hunting * Geologic Formation Maps Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bev Posted May 27, 2016 Author Share Posted May 27, 2016 http://www.geomuseum.uni-goettingen.de:8001/museum/publications/images/Contributions_of_geosciences/10.3249_3924.pdf Thank you for sharing that link with us, doushantuo! I couldn't read the language but truly enjoyed the pictures. :-) The more I learn, I realize the less I know. BluffCountryFossils.NET Fossil Adventure Blog Go to my Gallery for images of Fossil Jewelry, Sculpture & Crafts Pinned Posts: Beginner's Guide to Fossil Hunting * Geologic Formation Maps Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guguita2104 Posted June 17, 2016 Share Posted June 17, 2016 Stunning, Bev !!! I also think this is a real Scyphocrinites elegans.I would add that this specimen came from the Silurain of Erfoud (Morocco). Regards, 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bev Posted June 17, 2016 Author Share Posted June 17, 2016 Stunning, Bev !!! I also think this is a real Scyphocrinites elegans.I would add that this specimen came from the Silurain of Erfoud (Morocco). Regards, Thank you so much, Guguita! I love it. :-D The more I learn, I realize the less I know. BluffCountryFossils.NET Fossil Adventure Blog Go to my Gallery for images of Fossil Jewelry, Sculpture & Crafts Pinned Posts: Beginner's Guide to Fossil Hunting * Geologic Formation Maps Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnBrewer Posted June 19, 2016 Share Posted June 19, 2016 Don't buy it! It is a fake. You can see the color of the rock its on differs slightly from the place the actual crinoid shows up. This is a big warning sign! I lost alot of money buying these fakes...however, it IS a very nice fake. (I know. I have several of them). A lot of fossils are coloured to make them stand out from the matrix which this looks like. I've got a couple of Heteromorphs that have been coloured but they are real ammonites, just enhanced. I'd be very happy to own this peice. Welcome to the forum John Map of UK fossil sites Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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