chainsaw Posted March 10, 2009 Share Posted March 10, 2009 I think this is possibly a turtle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Posted March 10, 2009 Share Posted March 10, 2009 ?????????? KOF, Bill. Welcome to the forum, all new members www.ukfossils check it out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CreekCrawler Posted March 10, 2009 Share Posted March 10, 2009 Hi there I really don't see any turtle material there. Turtles and tortoises have beaks rather than teeth. The jaw section looks fishy to me.The second pic looks like a broken piece of fish tooth. Iv'e seen those teeth in the jaw section you have there, just not sure who they belong to. I'm sure others will weigh in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chainsaw Posted March 10, 2009 Author Share Posted March 10, 2009 found this also Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brsr0131 Posted March 10, 2009 Share Posted March 10, 2009 What is the age of the formation that you found this in? Location? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chainsaw Posted March 11, 2009 Author Share Posted March 11, 2009 I do not know the age of the formation it was found in north west New Mexico Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest N.AL.hunter Posted March 11, 2009 Share Posted March 11, 2009 Extremely interesting items you have found. I can't Id them, but I am waiting for someone to ID them. I would guess that you have a very interesting site you've discovered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mommabetts Posted March 11, 2009 Share Posted March 11, 2009 Nice finds, I don't think that is turtle either, never seen turtle like that. I would say fish also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CreekCrawler Posted March 11, 2009 Share Posted March 11, 2009 found this also Now that looks like some turtle material! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Traviscounty Posted March 11, 2009 Share Posted March 11, 2009 Hi there I really don't see any turtle material there. Turtles and tortoises have beaks rather than teeth.The jaw section looks fishy to me.The second pic looks like a broken piece of fish tooth. Iv'e seen those teeth in the jaw section you have there, just not sure who they belong to. I'm sure others will weigh in. I think Dan had some teeth like that on here for ID? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Posted March 11, 2009 Share Posted March 11, 2009 1. looks mammalian, possibly some sort of deer.. 2. Fragment of a tusk of some sort? 3. Looks like part of a turtle shell, likely that of Apalone Ferox, the soft-shelled turtle, because of it's semi-unique turtle shell texture. 4. I want to say fragment of a Vertebrae, but I don't know why. How's my ID's, guys? EDIT: now that I've said it, I feel like a moron. Scratch horse on the first one, the teeth are WAAY to small for horse lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lawooten Posted March 12, 2009 Share Posted March 12, 2009 It looks like its from a Tapirus sp. to me. What is the size of it by the way? The best days are spent collecting fossils Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmy1971 Posted March 12, 2009 Share Posted March 12, 2009 Peccary? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmy1971 Posted March 12, 2009 Share Posted March 12, 2009 or Tapir like lawooten said....I was looking at some images online and Tapir and Peccary look kinda similar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MOROPUS Posted March 12, 2009 Share Posted March 12, 2009 ...and what about the strange enamel formation? It looks as if it was rough to the touch (sorry, I don`t know how to explain it; granulose? tiny bumps?) . I don`t think a deer has that type of teeth...It looks more...archaic? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MOROPUS Posted March 12, 2009 Share Posted March 12, 2009 I`m referring to the maxillar, not the second pic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lawooten Posted March 12, 2009 Share Posted March 12, 2009 No not Peccary it is Tapirus sp. You have to put the two pics side by side and you can see the difference. The two ridges on the Tapir are side to side and the Peccaries has ridges front to back. Good example is in the book Verebrate Fossils: A Neophyte's Guide Pg for Tapirus is 108 and Peccaries on page 137. Could you give us a size on the second one? Where they found in the same area? It could be the canine of a Tapir also they will be about 1 5/8 long x 1/2 tall x 1/4 wide. That depends on its size also. The best days are spent collecting fossils Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chainsaw Posted March 12, 2009 Author Share Posted March 12, 2009 All pictures are from the same location found within 100 yards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chainsaw Posted March 12, 2009 Author Share Posted March 12, 2009 Another angle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Posted March 12, 2009 Share Posted March 12, 2009 Yeah I saw a wild pic about a deer that looked alot like that for some reason; from this angle, I agree with tapirus sp. That, now that I have a scale to base it on, is NOT a tusk XD... some sort of tooth of some sort.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnJ Posted March 13, 2009 Share Posted March 13, 2009 chainsaw, can you pick out the general formation on this geologic MAP? It would help with the IDs. The human mind has the ability to believe anything is true. - JJ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaleoRon Posted March 13, 2009 Share Posted March 13, 2009 The teeth look a lot more like peccary than tapir. Peccary teeth have cusps but the chewing surface of the rear teeth of tapirs are more blade-like. Three peccary teeth on the left and two tapir teeth on the right. I have an early Miocene peccary tooth somewhere that looks similar to the teeth in the jaw section. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chainsaw Posted March 13, 2009 Author Share Posted March 13, 2009 chainsaw, can you pick out the general formation on this geologic MAP? It would help with the IDs. UK3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lawooten Posted March 13, 2009 Share Posted March 13, 2009 I see what you mean about the bumps on the inner part of the teeth by these new pics but the mandible heemmmm? I am going to have to retract my tapirus and I have to go with PaloRon on this also because the view in the new pics looks like the mandible of Peccaries, Platygonus vetus Early pleistocene 1.0-1.5 million years. (From the lower jaw back section.) Good job PaloRon. The best days are spent collecting fossils Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmy1971 Posted March 13, 2009 Share Posted March 13, 2009 Hey I'm kinda proud of myself for being able to come up with peccary now.....I've learned alot here! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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