texaswoodie Posted March 11, 2009 Share Posted March 11, 2009 Last weekend I had to go to Denton, so on the way 9more or less) I stopped at NSR and picked up a few. One of which was my first vert! Now if someone would identify it for me, I'll be a happy camper. Also found a bone and some fragments I left around 1 PM and went on to Denton and checked out a construction site some members pointed me to. Thanks guys! Also found a few bihalves and there were thousands of weird purple oysters littering the ground Curt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bmorefossil Posted March 11, 2009 Share Posted March 11, 2009 cool (= Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mommabetts Posted March 11, 2009 Share Posted March 11, 2009 I would say it is a mosasaur vert, nice finds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
texaswoodie Posted March 11, 2009 Author Share Posted March 11, 2009 Thanks momma, I had doubts because it's so small. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CreekCrawler Posted March 11, 2009 Share Posted March 11, 2009 Nice finds Tx Woodie, that vert looks a little fishy to me. The black color is what's making me think fish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tracer Posted March 11, 2009 Share Posted March 11, 2009 mosasaur caudal vert, indeterminate species, partially (approximately 76.4%) phosphatized. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mommabetts Posted March 11, 2009 Share Posted March 11, 2009 mosasaur caudal vert, indeterminate species, partially (approximately 76.4%) phosphatized. Thanks tracer, I have been trying to locate some of my black verts from the NSR for comparison, but haven't found them yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CreekCrawler Posted March 11, 2009 Share Posted March 11, 2009 Hmmm....the reason I was guessing fish was because this specimen that I have here. I thought that his looked similar to mine. It's roughly the same size and from the same river. I thought that mine was fish ,but am open for a correct ID.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Traviscounty Posted March 11, 2009 Share Posted March 11, 2009 Good job Curt. Glad to see you had successful trip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mommabetts Posted March 11, 2009 Share Posted March 11, 2009 Hmmm....the reason I was guessing fish was because this specimen that I have here. I thought that his looked similar to mine. It's roughly the same size and from the same river. I thought that mine was fish ,but am open for a correct ID.... That doesn't look like a fish to me, is it concave in the other end? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CreekCrawler Posted March 11, 2009 Share Posted March 11, 2009 Yes they are. It's hard to tell, but both sides are photographed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mommabetts Posted March 11, 2009 Share Posted March 11, 2009 Here is a vert and bone shard that came from the NSR about 4 months ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mommabetts Posted March 11, 2009 Share Posted March 11, 2009 Yes they are. It's hard to tell, but both sides are photographed. Then they probably are fish. If you will look at his, his is domed on one end and the other end should be concave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CreekCrawler Posted March 11, 2009 Share Posted March 11, 2009 Then they probably are fish. If you will look at his, his is domed on one end and the other end should be concave. Gotcha I see the dome on his! Back to the books! LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mommabetts Posted March 11, 2009 Share Posted March 11, 2009 Gotcha I see the dome on his! Back to the books! LOL yours looks like it is from a plesiosaur. Look in the book in the back, there is a vert that looks like yours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tracer Posted March 11, 2009 Share Posted March 11, 2009 yours looks like it is from a plesiosaur. Look in the book in the back, there is a vert that looks like yours. nah, his is a fish vert. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tracer Posted March 11, 2009 Share Posted March 11, 2009 Oceans of Kansas website has a ton of info on it, and a link to a forum on marine reptiles where you could doubtless be told the exact birthdate and middle name of the reptile which previously derived structural support from your collector's item. i get tired just thinking about how much some people have studied stuff. in my next life i want to be so freaky smart that lightbulbs dim when i walk into a room... ...scratch that - how's that song go? "faster horses, younger women, older whiskey, and more money..." nah...leaves out too much. let me think on it and i won't get back to ya. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mommabetts Posted March 11, 2009 Share Posted March 11, 2009 Gee tracer, I thought they already did that when you were around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
texaswoodie Posted March 12, 2009 Author Share Posted March 12, 2009 So a fish vert will be concave on both ends? Is that what I'm reading or did I miss something. Dim light bulb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tracer Posted March 12, 2009 Share Posted March 12, 2009 nah, it's more than that. look up some pictures of various fish verts, and then some of marine reptiles. the "sides" of the vert are different too, and the physical surface structure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tracer Posted March 12, 2009 Share Posted March 12, 2009 i'm trying to think - go to google and select "images" and search for "mosasaur vertebrae", "pleisiosaur vertebrae", "pliosaur vertebrae", "icthyosaur vertebrae", and "fish vertebrae". look at a number of photos of each type, and study the differences. you'll note that the "ends" of a vert being concave isn't exclusive to fish, but that there are other distinguishing features also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnJ Posted March 12, 2009 Share Posted March 12, 2009 TW, I agree with mommabetts and tracer, you've found a really cool small mosasaur vertebra. mommabetts, that's another nice mosasaur caudal vert in your photo...and I know you love "mossies". Barry, you ought to know better than to talk back to "someone older than dirt" or anyone's Momma... Your vert looks like a Xiphactinus vertebra. Maybe X-man can confirm...as a winner of a "golden drool bucket", he's see a few x-fish verts. The human mind has the ability to believe anything is true. - JJ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tracer Posted March 12, 2009 Share Posted March 12, 2009 TW, I agree with mommabetts and tracer, you've found a really cool small mosasaur vertebra. mommabetts, that's another nice mosasaur caudal vert in your photo...and I know you love "mossies". Barry, you ought to know better than to talk back to "someone older than dirt" or anyone's Momma... Your vert looks like a Xiphactinus vertebra. Maybe X-man can confirm...as a winner of a "golden drool bucket", he's see a few x-fish verts. i was gonna go out on a limb and say the x-word, but i dint want to mispel it and look foolish, plus i dint want somebody leapin' on me screamin' enchodus or sompin... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
texaswoodie Posted March 12, 2009 Author Share Posted March 12, 2009 i'm trying to think - go to google and select "images" and search for "mosasaur vertebrae", "pleisiosaur vertebrae", "pliosaur vertebrae", "icthyosaur vertebrae", and "fish vertebrae".look at a number of photos of each type, and study the differences. you'll note that the "ends" of a vert being concave isn't exclusive to fish, but that there are other distinguishing features also. Thanks Tracer, I'll do that. Thanks everyone. I'm really stoked, this being my first one and all. Curt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xiphactinus Posted March 12, 2009 Share Posted March 12, 2009 Hmmm....the reason I was guessing fish was because this specimen that I have here. I thought that his looked similar to mine. It's roughly the same size and from the same river. I thought that mine was fish ,but am open for a correct ID.... These are images of a Xiphactinus vert. Nice! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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