abyssunder Posted May 9, 2015 Share Posted May 9, 2015 Hello TFF ! Please help identify this tooth.Came from China with no details about location,geological age or genre.I think it`s possible to be from Pleistocene.I upload some pictures from different angles for an overall view. " We are not separate and independent entities, but like links in a chain, and we could not by any means be what we are without those who went before us and showed us the way. " Thomas Mann My Library Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abyssunder Posted May 9, 2015 Author Share Posted May 9, 2015 ...and also these Thank you. " We are not separate and independent entities, but like links in a chain, and we could not by any means be what we are without those who went before us and showed us the way. " Thomas Mann My Library Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abyssunder Posted May 14, 2015 Author Share Posted May 14, 2015 No idea for an ID? " We are not separate and independent entities, but like links in a chain, and we could not by any means be what we are without those who went before us and showed us the way. " Thomas Mann My Library Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fossilized6s Posted May 14, 2015 Share Posted May 14, 2015 Looks like a partial juvenile Platybelodon tooth to me. ~Charlie~ "There are those that look at things the way they are, and ask why.....i dream of things that never were, and ask why not?" ~RFK ->Get your Mosasaur print ->How to spot a fake Trilobite ->How to identify a CONCRETION from a DINOSAUR EGG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abyssunder Posted May 14, 2015 Author Share Posted May 14, 2015 Thanks for your opinion. If it is from a Gomphothere,I think you are right,it must be a juvenile one. If it was found in China probably belongs to Gomphotherium,Platybelodon or Sinomastodon... " We are not separate and independent entities, but like links in a chain, and we could not by any means be what we are without those who went before us and showed us the way. " Thomas Mann My Library Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diceros Posted May 15, 2015 Share Posted May 15, 2015 At only an inch wide, it seems too small for a proboscidean, even a milk tooth. What about a partial lower molar of a large pig, like a m. Miocene Bunolistriodon. I've seen those from China at shows the last few years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auspex Posted May 15, 2015 Share Posted May 15, 2015 At only an inch wide, it seems too small for a proboscidean, even a milk tooth. What about a partial lower molar of a large pig, like a m. Miocene Bunolistriodon. I've seen those from China at shows the last few years. I think this is the best avenue for finding a firm ID. "There has been an alarming increase in the number of things I know nothing about." - Ashleigh Ellwood Brilliant “Try to learn something about everything and everything about something.” - Thomas Henry Huxley >Paleontology is an evolving science. >May your wonders never cease! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abyssunder Posted May 15, 2015 Author Share Posted May 15, 2015 Your opinions are precious(as always),and I thank you for that,but this "avenue" for me looks more like a labyrinth considering that the Suidae family from the Miocene to Holocene has a lot of extinct subfamilies with a lot of genera,tribes and species,and the lack of comparable pictures on the internet, making me to believe it is very difficult to determine even a subfamily or a genus,in this case. For example,I have never seen a Bunolistriodon molar. " We are not separate and independent entities, but like links in a chain, and we could not by any means be what we are without those who went before us and showed us the way. " Thomas Mann My Library Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fossilized6s Posted May 15, 2015 Share Posted May 15, 2015 (edited) I thought "pig" at first too. It just didn't fit the bill for me. I did take the size into consideration. This is just the front tip of the tooth. If whole, I would assume this would have been around 5" long. But having said that, I still don't fully know who the tooth in question belonged to. Edited May 15, 2015 by fossilized6s ~Charlie~ "There are those that look at things the way they are, and ask why.....i dream of things that never were, and ask why not?" ~RFK ->Get your Mosasaur print ->How to spot a fake Trilobite ->How to identify a CONCRETION from a DINOSAUR EGG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abyssunder Posted May 16, 2015 Author Share Posted May 16, 2015 (edited) I think we're going in circles and get the same question as in previous cases:are we dealing with a Proboscidean or a Suid?My first thought was also "pig",but in this case (I think) Sus scrofa is excluded.If the tooth is from a juvenile Proboscidean why are the cusps so glossy and the chewing surface so used,and the arrangements of the cusps in zig-zag instead of being aligned in two rows?I'm inclined to believe (but I`m not convinced) that the molar belongs to a big (Miocene) Suidae,like Diceros said,Bunolistriodon,maybe Kubanochoerus(gigas) or similar. If you click on the picture you can see the sample in rotation. Edited May 17, 2015 by abyssunder " We are not separate and independent entities, but like links in a chain, and we could not by any means be what we are without those who went before us and showed us the way. " Thomas Mann My Library Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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