edd Posted May 17, 2009 Share Posted May 17, 2009 Found this in a creek in Gainesville Florida,it looks like a part of a skull,maybe dugong?....... it wont let me upload a photo,ill try again later " We're all puppets, I'm just a puppet who can see the strings. " Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boesse Posted May 17, 2009 Share Posted May 17, 2009 I can't tell what it is based on morphology, but I can tell you that the bone isn't dense enough to be from a sirenian. It doesn't really look cetacean, but more views would be good. Bobby Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edd Posted May 17, 2009 Author Share Posted May 17, 2009 more photos " We're all puppets, I'm just a puppet who can see the strings. " Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auspex Posted May 17, 2009 Share Posted May 17, 2009 The internal bone structure, revealed where it is broken, reminds me of that of the whale verts we find along the Chesapeake Bay. I can't make any sense of the bone's shape in that context though. "There has been an alarming increase in the number of things I know nothing about." - Ashleigh Ellwood Brilliant “Try to learn something about everything and everything about something.” - Thomas Henry Huxley >Paleontology is an evolving science. >May your wonders never cease! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edd Posted May 18, 2009 Author Share Posted May 18, 2009 I cant find anything similar with this kinda shape...not a vertebra,not pelvic bone,not a skull.i've been searching for 3 months now to see what it could be,with no luck. " We're all puppets, I'm just a puppet who can see the strings. " Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cris Posted May 18, 2009 Share Posted May 18, 2009 I found a large chunk of mastodon tooth in one of the creeks a few weeks back.... If it's not cetacean, there's a possibility it's not quite as old as you think...perhaps Pleistocene. Just saying don't limit yourself to thinking it could only be whale/dugong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edd Posted May 18, 2009 Author Share Posted May 18, 2009 i dont know how old it is till i know what it is. " We're all puppets, I'm just a puppet who can see the strings. " Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edd Posted May 20, 2009 Author Share Posted May 20, 2009 its very thick so it might be a chunk of bone from a mastodon or mammoth " We're all puppets, I'm just a puppet who can see the strings. " Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypercalcified Posted May 26, 2009 Share Posted May 26, 2009 This looks very much like a cetacean squamosal --- the piece of skull bone around the ear bone -- you find a lot of them at Lee Creek. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edd Posted May 27, 2009 Author Share Posted May 27, 2009 So is it or isnt a cetacean bone? " We're all puppets, I'm just a puppet who can see the strings. " Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypercalcified Posted May 28, 2009 Share Posted May 28, 2009 This looks very much like a cetacean squamosal --- the piece of skull bone around the ear bone -- you find a lot of them at Lee Creek. edd: It would be a whale squamosal ---- a very nice specimen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boesse Posted May 29, 2009 Share Posted May 29, 2009 This is part of the petrosal, squamosal, exoccipital, and basioccipital of the baleen whale Herpetocetus. While it is fairly banged up, the posterior process of the petrosal is in place (albeit slightly damaged). What age are the strata there at Gainesville? Pliocene? If so, this is probably from Herpetocetus transatlanticus. Herpetocetus has a really distinctive temporal region of the skull. Bobby Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tracer Posted May 29, 2009 Share Posted May 29, 2009 i agree with bobby. <looking around to see if anybody notices that i'm totally making up any semblance of knowing anything about this topic> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mommabetts Posted May 29, 2009 Share Posted May 29, 2009 Nice find. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edd Posted May 29, 2009 Author Share Posted May 29, 2009 age of the strata here in Gainesville would be mostly Miocene....i have another piece just like this one here but a bit smaller and i posted it here as well too,thanks alot anyway,it was making me crazy " We're all puppets, I'm just a puppet who can see the strings. " Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boesse Posted May 29, 2009 Share Posted May 29, 2009 If it is late Miocene... then it could be Herpetocetus. If not, then at the very least, it is a herpetocetine whale closely allied with Herpetocetus (i.e. Metopocetus). Bobby Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edd Posted May 29, 2009 Author Share Posted May 29, 2009 Thanks " We're all puppets, I'm just a puppet who can see the strings. " Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barefootgirl Posted May 29, 2009 Share Posted May 29, 2009 Really nice find! In formal logic, a contradiction is the signal of defeat: but in the evolution of real knowledge, it marks the first step in progress toward victory. Alfred North Whithead 'Don't worry about the world coming to an end today. It's already tomorrow in Australia!' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edd Posted May 30, 2009 Author Share Posted May 30, 2009 why is it a nice find when you find a lot of them at Lee Creek... " We're all puppets, I'm just a puppet who can see the strings. " Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barefootgirl Posted May 30, 2009 Share Posted May 30, 2009 why is it a nice find when you find a lot of them at Lee Creek... Okay then, Cant you find something better than that!!! How's that? Happy now. Actually, its a nice find to me because I don't have one. It would still be a nice find even if I did because I enjoy collecting fossils. It doesn't have to be extraordinary for me to like it and give a compliment on it. I said it was nice not awesome, super cool, or this etc..... In formal logic, a contradiction is the signal of defeat: but in the evolution of real knowledge, it marks the first step in progress toward victory. Alfred North Whithead 'Don't worry about the world coming to an end today. It's already tomorrow in Australia!' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edd Posted May 30, 2009 Author Share Posted May 30, 2009 Why are you getting pissy missy? " We're all puppets, I'm just a puppet who can see the strings. " Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barefootgirl Posted May 30, 2009 Share Posted May 30, 2009 Im not, you asked I answered. Believe me, when I get pissy the whole forum will know about it In formal logic, a contradiction is the signal of defeat: but in the evolution of real knowledge, it marks the first step in progress toward victory. Alfred North Whithead 'Don't worry about the world coming to an end today. It's already tomorrow in Australia!' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edd Posted May 30, 2009 Author Share Posted May 30, 2009 Atleast we have the same hobbies " We're all puppets, I'm just a puppet who can see the strings. " Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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