FossilDudeCO Posted June 30, 2016 Share Posted June 30, 2016 Has anyone seen one? Have one? How far do they go back in the fossil record? I know that beaks from octopus and squid have been found. I am interested in an entire body Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wendell Ricketts Posted June 30, 2016 Share Posted June 30, 2016 They do exist although, like most soft-bodied organisms, they tend to be fossilized in pretty seriously flattened forms as films and impressions. Do some net research on the genus Keuppia, for example, a Cretaceous octopus known from Lebanon. The Summer 2016 issue of Fossil News magazine includes an article about Keuppia and the artist, Esther van Hulsen, who painted a life reconstruction of the octopus with its own fossilized ink. _________________________________ Wendell Ricketts Fossil News: The Journal of Avocational Paleontology http://fossilnews.org https://twitter.com/Fossil_News The "InvertebrateMe" blog http://invertebrateme.wordpress.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FossilDudeCO Posted June 30, 2016 Author Share Posted June 30, 2016 Oh wow, that is a fantastic drawing! Thanks for pointing me in that direction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doushantuo Posted June 30, 2016 Share Posted June 30, 2016 (edited) http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1475-4983.2008.00828.x/pdf https://www.researchgate.net/publication/272420247_A_nearly_complete_respiratory_circulatory_and_excretory_system_preserved_in_small_Late_Cretaceous_octopods_Cephalopoda_from_Lebanon Edited June 30, 2016 by doushantuo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doushantuo Posted June 30, 2016 Share Posted June 30, 2016 (edited) this thread might be a nice place for this: THE classical monograph on fossil coleoids(in German) http://ia902605.us.archive.org/10/items/diefossilentinte00naef/diefossilentinte00naef.pdf Edited June 30, 2016 by doushantuo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FossilDudeCO Posted June 30, 2016 Author Share Posted June 30, 2016 Yes please! Now to just learn enough German... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doushantuo Posted June 30, 2016 Share Posted June 30, 2016 i read German,not suggesting i translate the whole thingy for you,but if you come across interesting paragraphs...let me know Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doushantuo Posted June 30, 2016 Share Posted June 30, 2016 (edited) My tempo would be about a sentence every 10 seconds,prolly too slow for you? Edited June 30, 2016 by doushantuo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FossilDudeCO Posted June 30, 2016 Author Share Posted June 30, 2016 Haha thank you! I will peruse it for sure! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doushantuo Posted June 30, 2016 Share Posted June 30, 2016 (edited) almost forgot; http://www-personal.umich.edu/~wstoddar/voultesurrhone.pdf fig 19 and 20 quickly translating: a "nektobenthic active chaser of living prey,so": a predator (the well-developed fins being a clue to that) Edited June 30, 2016 by doushantuo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PFOOLEY Posted June 30, 2016 Share Posted June 30, 2016 almost forgot; http://www-personal.umich.edu/~wstoddar/voultesurrhone.pdf fig 19 and 20 quickly translating: a "nektobenthic active chaser of living prey,so": a predator (the well-developed fins being a clue to that) Remarkable indeed. "I am glad I shall never be young without wild country to be young in. Of what avail are forty freedoms without a blank spot on the map?" ~Aldo Leopold (1887-1948) New Mexico Museum of Natural History Bulletins Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TqB Posted June 30, 2016 Share Posted June 30, 2016 this thread might be a nice place for this: THE classical monograph on fossil coleoids(in German) http://ia902605.us.archive.org/10/items/diefossilentinte00naef/diefossilentinte00naef.pdf I have an English translation, don't think it's available online though. Tarquin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmaier Posted June 30, 2016 Share Posted June 30, 2016 You can copy and paste blocks of text into the google translator. The german translation is very choppy and weird, but it is better that being jabbed in the eye by a sharp crinoid (slightly). https://translate.google.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glu Posted June 30, 2016 Share Posted June 30, 2016 Lots of complete octopus with ink sack have been found in Lebanon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doushantuo Posted June 30, 2016 Share Posted June 30, 2016 (edited) google translate: So etwas gibt es doch nicht translated as: "something there is not yet" No thanks:besides i'm aware of scientific ,idiomatic and cultural idiosyncrasies,besides the usual linguistic and grammatical challenges.I'd be more than happy to translate stuff Edited June 30, 2016 by doushantuo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raggedy Man Posted June 30, 2016 Share Posted June 30, 2016 Ah I didn't catch it the first time I read this, but I thought you wanted to some information about them. Lol Anyway, I can't help with that, but I am going to link a paper on the awesome jellyfish fields of Wisconsin. Geological Society Of America. (2002, January 24). What Are Those Big Jellyfish Fossils Doing In Wisconsin?. ScienceDaily. Retrieved June 30, 2016 from www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2002/01/020124173804.htm Enjoy! Best regards, Paul ...I'm back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FossilDudeCO Posted June 30, 2016 Author Share Posted June 30, 2016 Jellyfish in Wisconsin?!?! Awesome! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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