DevonianDigger Posted March 24, 2018 Share Posted March 24, 2018 So I am trying to add a new trilobite to the collections. I have recently become the proud owner of a rather new and uncommon species of trilobite. It is presently listed as a Koneprusites sp. I don't come from the world of research academia, and am not particularly skilled at finding published papers pertaining to specific species. I am wondering if one of our trilobite experts could point me in the direction of some research materials and perhaps an author citation for the Koneprusites. Any info would be greatly appreciated. @piranha, perhaps you have some thoughts? Thank you all in advance! Jay A. Wollin Lead Fossil Educator - Penn Dixie Fossil Park and Nature Reserve Hamburg, New York, USA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doushantuo Posted March 24, 2018 Share Posted March 24, 2018 please note:some editing on my part note two: can't give ANY post-1923 Richter reference,nor any Alberti,nor pre 1999 Czech(e.g. Pribyl),nor Ormiston reference arrgh: double post!!!clumsy!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DevonianDigger Posted March 24, 2018 Author Share Posted March 24, 2018 Thanks for that link @doushantuo! However, the Koneprusia is a Lichida in the family Odontopleuridae, whereas the Koneprusites is a Proetid from the family Tropidocoryphidae. There is more information on the Koneprusia because they are fancy spiny bugs, but the Koneprusites are rather little and unassuming fellas—and from what I understand—a pretty recently described species. I should attach a photo or two for reference. 1 Jay A. Wollin Lead Fossil Educator - Penn Dixie Fossil Park and Nature Reserve Hamburg, New York, USA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doushantuo Posted March 24, 2018 Share Posted March 24, 2018 I know about tropidocoryphines DD;I've read my Feist,Bignon etc Used this one to look up pre 1976 references,BTW 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piranha Posted March 24, 2018 Share Posted March 24, 2018 2 hours ago, doushantuo said: Koneprusites is a proetid trilobite. The trilobites from the Adrain et al. paper are odontopleurids. The names Koneprusites / Koneprusia, etc., refers to the region of Koněprusy, Czech Republic. These are the described Koneprusites species from Morocco according to Crônier et al. 2018: Alberti, G.K.B. 1969 Trilobiten des jüngeren Siluriums sowie des Unter- und Mittel devons. I. Abhandlungen der Senckenbergischen Naturforschenden Gesellschaft, 520:1-692 Koneprusites saharae Alberti, G.K.B. 1970 Trilobiten des jüngeren Siluriums sowie des Unter- und Mitteldevons. II. Abhandlungen der Senckenbergischen Naturforschenden Gesellschaft, 525:1-233 Koneprusites africus Feist, Raimund & Orth, Bernard 2000 Trilobites de la limite Eifélien/Givétien de la région stratotypique (Tafilalet, Maider, Maroc). Proceedings: Travaux de l'Institut Scientifique Rabat, série géologie & géographie physique, 20:78-91 Koneprusites sp. text from: Šnajdr, Milan 1980 Bohemian Silurian and Devonian Proetidae (Trilobita). Vydal Ústrední Ústav Geologický v Academii, nakladatelstvl - Československá akademie věd, 45:1-324 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doushantuo Posted March 24, 2018 Share Posted March 24, 2018 2-6 are from the BASSE GUPW issue(misc.Koneprusites) 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DevonianDigger Posted March 24, 2018 Author Share Posted March 24, 2018 9 minutes ago, doushantuo said: I know about tropidocoryphines DD;I've read my Feist,Bignon etc Used this one to look up pre 1976 references,BTW I have not, lol. This is a new family for me. This was a crime of opportunity. I was offered the chance to grab this piece under the auspices of it being a rather unusual piece, and I pounced. Now I am trying to educate myself. I think I'm discovering, between your post and @piranha's, that I am having most of my trouble in researching due to language barriers. What is the best means to search information across languages? Is there an engine you're using to do this, or are you guys just so ridiculously well versed in publications that you just know where to look without searching? (I'm sorry, I'm trying to get better guys!) 1 Jay A. Wollin Lead Fossil Educator - Penn Dixie Fossil Park and Nature Reserve Hamburg, New York, USA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doushantuo Posted March 24, 2018 Share Posted March 24, 2018 DO NOT BE SORRY FOR TRYING TO BECOME BETTER!!!!!!! I love people with intellectual curiosity who are trying to improve themselves Scientific research is*,alas, multilingual .Piranha's post exemplifies that: some of the best references are in French or German. (I consider myself pretty lucky in being able to understand several languages). I've occasionally offered to translate bits for other people,but so far :no response. edit:trilobite lore in German publications ,BTW,tends to be extremely hard to get.(for free ,that is) *edit two: for "is" read: "used to be" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piranha Posted March 24, 2018 Share Posted March 24, 2018 5 minutes ago, DevonianDigger said: ...Is there an engine you're using to do this... The engine is fueled by a lot of time and research! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doushantuo Posted March 24, 2018 Share Posted March 24, 2018 i can second that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DevonianDigger Posted March 24, 2018 Author Share Posted March 24, 2018 But yet you were both able to respond within such a short period of time. It's amazing to me! Now I just have to learn German and French... be back in a few, lol! Jay A. Wollin Lead Fossil Educator - Penn Dixie Fossil Park and Nature Reserve Hamburg, New York, USA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doushantuo Posted March 24, 2018 Share Posted March 24, 2018 I'd just like to point out that trilobite literature can be dispersed across various publications(Cladistics/2001): A lot of Austrian publications are free access 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tidgy's Dad Posted March 24, 2018 Share Posted March 24, 2018 Those are very nice little trilobites. Life's Good! Tortoise Friend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sagebrush Steve Posted March 24, 2018 Share Posted March 24, 2018 7 hours ago, DevonianDigger said: Now I just have to learn German and French... be back in a few, lol! Ah yes, you’ve reminded me of one of the reasons I gave up on physics and decided to major in engineering so many years ago. I’m terrible at languages and It was the only major at my college that didn’t have a foreign language requirement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doushantuo Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 The English and German versions differ:e.g. it appears to me that the "thin-shelled" does not appear in the German diagnosis edit:funny:my response appearing 6 minutes before Piranhá's latest post I must be prescient 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piranha Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 22 hours ago, DevonianDigger said: Now I just have to learn German and French... be back in a few, lol! I was trying to accommodate by posting Šnajdr 1980 in English. In German: the original description of Koneprusites Přibyl 1964: Přibyl, Alois 1964 Neue Trilobiten (Proetidae) aus dem böhmischen Devon. Spisanie na Bulgarskoto Geologichesko Druzhestvo Review of the Bulgarian Geological Society, 25(1):23-51 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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