New Members Squidsky Posted March 25, 2018 New Members Share Posted March 25, 2018 I just got a supposed tully monster fossil from the ESCONI auction today and im worried it may not be what they said it was. I want to also open it up more but im scared on how to do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tidgy's Dad Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 I really can't tell what it is, but, though i have a few Mazon Creek pieces, i'm no expert. @Nimravis 1 Life's Good! Tortoise Friend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockwood Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 10 hours ago, Squidsky said: supposed Sorry, but I'm afraid it may may not make it beyond this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smt126 Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 That's a claw of the tully isn't it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockwood Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 14 minutes ago, smt126 said: That's a claw of the tully isn't it? Do they have claws this month ? Seems like every time you look this puzzle has been re solved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fossildude19 Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 48 minutes ago, Rockwood said: Do they have claws this month ? Seems like every time you look this puzzle has been re solved. They've always had a claw : @RCFossils @fossilized6s @digit 1 Tim - VETERAN SHALE SPLITTER VFOTM --- APRIL - 2015 IPFOTM -- MAY - 2024 _________________________________________________________________________________ "In every walk with nature one receives far more than he seeks." John Muir ~ ~ ~ ~ ><))))( *> About Me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJB Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 What in tarnation are you guys looking at? All i see is a rock. RB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JarrodB Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 7 minutes ago, RJB said: What in tarnation are you guys looking at? All i see is a rock. RB Lol I thought I was the only one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digit Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 Yup. That's the way it goes with Mazon Creek nodules. They are the Rorschach Ink Blot Test of fossils. Some are easier to make out if you've seen a large number of specimens of a particular species but many are really hard to pin down. I'm missing any key features that I'd associate with a Tully but (having never found one myself) I've little experience in identifying this species. Perhaps @fossilized6s or @Rob Russell might have a more informed opinion as I too see only a rock. Cheers. -Ken Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fossildude19 Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 11 minutes ago, RJB said: What in tarnation are you guys looking at? All i see is a rock. RB 4 minutes ago, JarrodB said: Lol I thought I was the only one. I know, but sometimes the Mazon Creek stuff is more visible with a trained eye. Tim - VETERAN SHALE SPLITTER VFOTM --- APRIL - 2015 IPFOTM -- MAY - 2024 _________________________________________________________________________________ "In every walk with nature one receives far more than he seeks." John Muir ~ ~ ~ ~ ><))))( *> About Me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JarrodB Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 1 minute ago, Fossildude19 said: I know, but sometimes the Mazon Creek stuff is more visible with a trained eye. Lol I can understand that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockwood Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 40 minutes ago, Fossildude19 said: They've always had a claw : @RCFossils @fossilized6s @digit If you say so. It's beyond my definition of claw though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auspex Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 I am poor at seeing some of these Mazon 'ghosts'. With Tullys, it's "eye-bar or it didn't happen" for me... 1 "There has been an alarming increase in the number of things I know nothing about." - Ashleigh Ellwood Brilliant “Try to learn something about everything and everything about something.” - Thomas Henry Huxley >Paleontology is an evolving science. >May your wonders never cease! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New Members Squidsky Posted March 25, 2018 Author New Members Share Posted March 25, 2018 (edited) I've been told its the butt end and supposedly the head is under the other half thats not removed. Edited March 25, 2018 by Squidsky Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malone Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 In the first picture I see the shape of the claw/forked nose or whatever it's called. It's vague but discernible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digit Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 I think that might be a trick of the eye--but then faint fossils in Mazon Creek nodules are nothing if not tricks of the eye sometimes. Cheers. -Ken 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockwood Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 8 hours ago, Squidsky said: supposedly the head is under the other half thats not removed. Maybe it's back to the freeze thaw routine ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fossildude19 Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 From what I have learned about Mazon Creek fossils over my years here on the Forum, these nodules have a tendency to not do well with the Freeze/Thaw cycle, once a major break has been made. I'd be hesitant to try it, myself. 3 Tim - VETERAN SHALE SPLITTER VFOTM --- APRIL - 2015 IPFOTM -- MAY - 2024 _________________________________________________________________________________ "In every walk with nature one receives far more than he seeks." John Muir ~ ~ ~ ~ ><))))( *> About Me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJB Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 13 hours ago, Malone said: n the first picture I see the shape of the claw/forked nose or whatever it's called. It's vague but discernible. I can see that too, but never would have thought 'fossil'. Id better stick with the crabs and fishy's me thinks. RB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malone Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 1 minute ago, RJB said: I can see that too, but never would have thought 'fossil'. Id better stick with the crabs and fishy's me thinks. RB Yeah I agree I only saw it after fossildude said that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockwood Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 6 minutes ago, RJB said: I can see that too, but never would have thought 'fossil'. Id better stick with the crabs and fishy's me thinks. RB The problem is that if you really try you can find several more of these shapes that are equally well defined in the rest of the rock. Don't surrender your conviction so easily. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kane Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 I suppose the one way to know for sure, and not risk ruining it, would be to reach out and see if someone with good preparation skills might help. ...How to Philosophize with a Hammer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Russell Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 If you won that at their auction then there is no doubt that it’s a partial tully. Congratulations on your new fossil. 2 Finding my way through life; one fossil at a time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockwood Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 1 hour ago, Rob Russell said: If you won that at their auction then there is no doubt that it’s a partial tully. Congratulations on your new fossil. I assume you are familiar with their standards, but do you care to offer an opinion on which part ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockwood Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 It's odd how organic these wrinkles look now. Is that where the 'hose' was ? and the eye bar over to the left ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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