Zesus Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 Hey guys, So I found this and I thought maybe it looked like a turtle flipper? Also, a side question. Is it possible for pigment to still be present in fossil turtle scutes? Thanks for your time and help! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fossildude19 Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 Sorry, but this isn't a fossil. Looks like quartzite to me. Regards, Tim - VETERAN SHALE SPLITTER VFOTM --- APRIL - 2015 IPFOTM -- MAY - 2024 _________________________________________________________________________________ "In every walk with nature one receives far more than he seeks." John Muir ~ ~ ~ ~ ><))))( *> About Me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ynot Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 1 hour ago, Zesus said: I thought maybe it looked like a turtle flipper A turtle's "flipper" is made from many bones, similar to the human hand or foot. This piece does not have the structure or shape of any of those bones. I agree with Tim, a quartz family rock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zesus Posted September 19, 2018 Author Share Posted September 19, 2018 im sorry, apologies, I uploaded the wrong folder. This was my the rock i was referring too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fossildude19 Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 Unfortunately, still not a fossil. Tim - VETERAN SHALE SPLITTER VFOTM --- APRIL - 2015 IPFOTM -- MAY - 2024 _________________________________________________________________________________ "In every walk with nature one receives far more than he seeks." John Muir ~ ~ ~ ~ ><))))( *> About Me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zesus Posted September 19, 2018 Author Share Posted September 19, 2018 also this one. #2 When does soft tissue fossilize? What type of conditions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zesus Posted September 19, 2018 Author Share Posted September 19, 2018 interesting, it really does look like it connected to something right there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zesus Posted September 19, 2018 Author Share Posted September 19, 2018 This looks like somehow preserved turtle shell as well.. Is that even possible? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fossildude19 Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 Soft tissue preservation is quite rare. My meager understanding of it is that iron needs to be present, and anoxic conditions, or mummification before fossilization (as in some very rare dinosaur fossils) Mineralization of body parts other than bones is exceedingly rare. The areas you point out are probably voids created by gas bubbles or dissolved minerals. I see what appear to be quartz or calcite veins\crystals on the item. No bone, no skin. Only rock. 2 Tim - VETERAN SHALE SPLITTER VFOTM --- APRIL - 2015 IPFOTM -- MAY - 2024 _________________________________________________________________________________ "In every walk with nature one receives far more than he seeks." John Muir ~ ~ ~ ~ ><))))( *> About Me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zesus Posted September 19, 2018 Author Share Posted September 19, 2018 thank you for the responses FossilDude!! always appreciated Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fossildude19 Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 No, ... it really doesn't. That looks like a rock. How Fossil turtle shell, actually looks. I would suggest joining a fossil or mineral club in your area, to learn what to look for, what fossils actually look like, and meet like minded people with experience in your area. Regards, Tim - VETERAN SHALE SPLITTER VFOTM --- APRIL - 2015 IPFOTM -- MAY - 2024 _________________________________________________________________________________ "In every walk with nature one receives far more than he seeks." John Muir ~ ~ ~ ~ ><))))( *> About Me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zesus Posted September 19, 2018 Author Share Posted September 19, 2018 yes, it does... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kane Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 This turtle shell has evident pattern symmetry, whereas the rock you have posted does not as it is criss-crossed and banded in several directions and thicknesses. ...How to Philosophize with a Hammer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zesus Posted September 19, 2018 Author Share Posted September 19, 2018 maybe the turtle melted, got cooked a bit in a vent deep under water Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kane Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 On 9/19/2018 at 5:10 PM, Zesus said: maybe the turtle melted, got cooked a bit in a vent deep under water I don't think turtles "melt." (except the chocolate variety). ...How to Philosophize with a Hammer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zesus Posted September 19, 2018 Author Share Posted September 19, 2018 maybe it got stuck on land when a mountain rose up, and ended up drying out in a salty muck. so was cured, kinda like jerky Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zesus Posted September 19, 2018 Author Share Posted September 19, 2018 On 9/19/2018 at 5:11 PM, Kane said: I don't think turtles "melt." (Except the chocolate variety). low and slow for best results, low and slow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fossildude19 Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 On 9/19/2018 at 5:05 PM, Zesus said: yes, it does... Really??? Which of these looks more like a fossil turtle shell? I'm beginning to think you may be having fun at our expense. Tim - VETERAN SHALE SPLITTER VFOTM --- APRIL - 2015 IPFOTM -- MAY - 2024 _________________________________________________________________________________ "In every walk with nature one receives far more than he seeks." John Muir ~ ~ ~ ~ ><))))( *> About Me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auspex Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 A superficial color pattern does not a plastron make. You have a colorful mineral specimen of non-organic origin. It never was a living creature of any kind. If you cannot accept that, then I suggest you get an opinion from a paleontologist at the nearest museum. Seriously, why on earth would we argue the point else wise? "There has been an alarming increase in the number of things I know nothing about." - Ashleigh Ellwood Brilliant “Try to learn something about everything and everything about something.” - Thomas Henry Huxley >Paleontology is an evolving science. >May your wonders never cease! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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