Carl Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 15 minutes ago, The Jersey Devil said: Do you know of any good sources for IDing NJ ammonite material? Absolutely: Ralph Johnson. I have to assume you've heard of him. I couldn't get that link to work. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jersey Devil Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 6 minutes ago, Carl said: Absolutely: Ralph Johnson. I have to assume you've heard of him. I couldn't get that link to work. Haha, I was thinking of saying (other than Ralph) in my previous reply, but didn't. So most of the nj ammonite knowledge you have is from examining MAPS's ammos? Would you say Horace G Richards is at least a decent source? “You must take your opponent into a deep dark forest where 2+2=5, and the path leading out is only wide enough for one.” ― Mikhail Tal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carl Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 5 hours ago, The Jersey Devil said: Haha, I was thinking of saying (other than Ralph) in my previous reply, but didn't. So most of the nj ammonite knowledge you have is from examining MAPS's ammos? Would you say Horace G Richards is at least a decent source? Richards is good but pretty old. Ralph is still alive, at least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
non-remanié Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 8 hours ago, Carl said: Here's what I see. Sorry: haven't read the other posts yet. The first 3 are ammonite chamber steinkerns. The one on the left of the first shot is probably Placenticeras, as is the one on the right. The "croissant" in the middle is Menuites. Nice find. The "cartilage" definitely does not look like chondrichthyan cartilage. Might be a mollusk steinkern of some kind. I agree with the 2 possible Xiphactinus teeth Can't tell what the "pathologic tooth or claw" is. Not at all likely to be a claw but possibly a fish tooth fragment The 6 teeth I would ID as Enchodus, Enchodus, croc, croc, croc, Pachyrhizodus "Scute" - nope. Just a rock "Plesiosaur tooth chunk" may just be a bone fragment - very hard to tell The mammal teeth are most likely modern - I'm seeing deer and rodent Hybodont cephalic hook rather than plesiosaur tooth Agree completely except can't tell about the "cartilage" . just need more pics. And I think it's a pathologic shark tooth blade 1 ---Wie Wasser schleift den Stein, wir steigen und fallen--- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
non-remanié Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 Also not sure on the coprolite. Need more pics but I'm leaning towards concretion 1 ---Wie Wasser schleift den Stein, wir steigen und fallen--- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jersey Devil Posted October 25, 2018 Share Posted October 25, 2018 21 hours ago, Trevor said: Is this cartilage? Coprolite? @non-remanié I don't see how the first item could be a tooth of any sort. The second may be a concretion, but I'd say there's a chance the spiral has been abraded. “You must take your opponent into a deep dark forest where 2+2=5, and the path leading out is only wide enough for one.” ― Mikhail Tal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
non-remanié Posted October 25, 2018 Share Posted October 25, 2018 Joseph, that's not what I meant. I was referring to 3 different items. I meant that the tooth/claw was a pathological and damaged shark tooth blade. Its definitely still a bit unclear but that's my impression of it. I am very doubtful of the coprolite but its a slight possibility. If it is a coprolite it seems like a very unusual style of preservation for NJ as well. The side we can see well in one picture is too irregular. It may be a deformed burrow infill or other trace. 1 ---Wie Wasser schleift den Stein, wir steigen und fallen--- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jersey Devil Posted October 25, 2018 Share Posted October 25, 2018 11 hours ago, non-remanié said: Joseph, that's not what I meant. I was referring to 3 different items. I meant that the tooth/claw was a pathological and damaged shark tooth blade. Its definitely still a bit unclear but that's my impression of it. I am very doubtful of the coprolite but its a slight possibility. If it is a coprolite it seems like a very unusual style of preservation for NJ as well. The side we can see well in one picture is too irregular. It may be a deformed burrow infill or other trace. Yeah I definitely see that being a shark tooth. Weird abrasion though. “You must take your opponent into a deep dark forest where 2+2=5, and the path leading out is only wide enough for one.” ― Mikhail Tal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carl Posted October 25, 2018 Share Posted October 25, 2018 14 hours ago, non-remanié said: Also not sure on the coprolite. Need more pics but I'm leaning towards concretion Totally missed the "coprolite" - thought that was more shots of the "cartilage." I agree that that isn't likely a coprolite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darktooth Posted October 25, 2018 Share Posted October 25, 2018 Nice finds Trevor! Lots of good stuff there. I like Trilo-butts and I cannot lie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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