Guest Smilodon Posted September 28, 2009 Share Posted September 28, 2009 Hi all, Back from an extended trip and reaaeaeaeaddddyyyyyy to ruuuuuuuuuuuumble. One LAND site in the Western Hemisphere has produced four species of prehistoric elephant fossils. For a complete "Attaboy" I'll need the site AND the four species. Ready, set, Google! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fossilshk Posted September 28, 2009 Share Posted September 28, 2009 nice website! Dinosaur Fossil Lab http://www.fossilshk.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
32fordboy Posted September 28, 2009 Share Posted September 28, 2009 So I assume mastodons and gomphotheres don't count, since they are not elephants? Nick www.nicksfossils.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Smilodon Posted September 28, 2009 Share Posted September 28, 2009 (edited) So I assume mastodons and gomphotheres don't count, since they are not elephants? Nick The parvorder Hefalumpidea includes anything with a trunk and tusks that walked on land. You, however, may assume anything you want. Edited September 28, 2009 by Smilodon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron E. Posted September 28, 2009 Share Posted September 28, 2009 Hi all, Back from an extended trip and reaaeaeaeaddddyyyyyy to ruuuuuuuuuuuumble. One LAND site in the Western Hemisphere has produced four species of prehistoric elephant fossils. For a complete "Attaboy" I'll need the site AND the four species. Ready, set, Google! No fair! I barely know the difference between a mammoth and Dumbo! And those weird aliens in Footfall! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
32fordboy Posted September 28, 2009 Share Posted September 28, 2009 The parvorder Hefalumpidea includes anything with a trunk and tusks that walked on land. You, however, may assume anything you want. haha that cracks me up. I honestly had to google that. I'm just giving you a hard time as well. www.nicksfossils.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Smilodon Posted September 29, 2009 Share Posted September 29, 2009 No fair! I barely know the difference between a mammoth and Dumbo! And those weird aliens in Footfall! Ron, There have to be some toughies mixed in with the easies. Ok here is a clue - It's in North America, not Latin or South America. That will practically give it away. Hehehe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MOROPUS Posted September 29, 2009 Share Posted September 29, 2009 Java, maybe? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
32fordboy Posted September 29, 2009 Share Posted September 29, 2009 This is a tough one. Are we treating M. columbi, M. jeffersonii, and M. imperator as one and the same? Just making sure so I know where to research. www.nicksfossils.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MOROPUS Posted September 29, 2009 Share Posted September 29, 2009 Java, maybe? Hummm! Mastodon, Gomphoterium, Mammuthus and Elephas? Trying to guess! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
32fordboy Posted September 29, 2009 Share Posted September 29, 2009 I was thinking M. Primigenius, M. Columbi, Mastodon, and Gomphothere, but can't find a site where they were all found. Off the top of my head, I'd say LaBrea, but I'm not sure M. Primigenius made it that far into the southwestern USA. Maybe some place in Florida or one of the states to the North of Florida? www.nicksfossils.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Smilodon Posted September 29, 2009 Share Posted September 29, 2009 Hummm! Mastodon, Gomphoterium, Mammuthus and Elephas? Trying to guess! While there may be land sites around the world with multiple species, I did say Western Hemisphere, and I've now made it easier (hehe) by narrowing it down to North America. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Smilodon Posted September 29, 2009 Share Posted September 29, 2009 I was thinking M. Primigenius, M. Columbi, Mastodon, and Gomphothere, but can't find a site where they were all found. Off the top of my head, I'd say LaBrea, but I'm not sure M. Primigenius made it that far into the southwestern USA. Maybe some place in Florida or one of the states to the North of Florida? I do consider M. columbi, jeffersonius, and imperator the same creature for all intents and purposes (and Archidiskodon isn't valid) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Smilodon Posted September 29, 2009 Share Posted September 29, 2009 Didn't all elephants that came to North America come via one route? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phoenixflood Posted September 29, 2009 Share Posted September 29, 2009 Didn't all elephants that came to North America come via one route? I was thinking Nebraska, but now I am also thinking Alaska just from what you said. The soul of a Fossil Hunter is one that is seeking, always. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Smilodon Posted September 29, 2009 Share Posted September 29, 2009 I was thinking Nebraska, but now I am also thinking Alaska just from what you said. GOTCHA! Sorry it was you Phoenix, but I was hoping someone would guess Alaska. Merely a diversion. Nebraska is a great guess - but nope too OK more help. The site is either in Canada, California, Texas, Florida, South Carolina, Ohio, or Puerto Rico. You will only get very small partial credit for the state, at most an "at...." It's the beginning of the school year and I'm being tough. Site AND critters for full credit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phoenixflood Posted September 29, 2009 Share Posted September 29, 2009 GOTCHA! Sorry it was you Phoenix, but I was hoping someone would guess Alaska. Merely a diversion. Nebraska is a great guess - but nope too OK more help. The site is either in Canada, California, Texas, Florida, South Carolina, Ohio, or Puerto Rico. You will only get very small partial credit for the state, at most an "at...." It's the beginning of the school year and I'm being tough. Site AND critters for full credit. That's perfectly fine Are there any fossils in Alaska though or should I just be looking for gold? I know that there are Mammoths, mastodons and gomps in Fl. But there are also gomps and mammoths in TX. Also, from personal experience gomps in NC I want to say no clue The soul of a Fossil Hunter is one that is seeking, always. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
32fordboy Posted September 29, 2009 Share Posted September 29, 2009 I'm stumped on this one even after a ton of Google. I'm saying South Carolina because that's where all four of the above species (M primigenius, M. columbi, Mammut americanum, and gomphothere) seemed to have been in one place at one time. As far as the site, no clue. Actually, I could see Canada and Ohio working, too. Ah, snarge. You're really good at picking your questions. www.nicksfossils.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Smilodon Posted September 29, 2009 Share Posted September 29, 2009 I'm stumped on this one even after a ton of Google. I'm saying South Carolina because that's where all four of the above species (M primigenius, M. columbi, Mammut americanum, and gomphothere) seemed to have been in one place at one time. As far as the site, no clue. Actually, I could see Canada and Ohio working, too. Ah, snarge. You're really good at picking your questions. Ready, this will blow your mind. M. primigenius is not one of the four. BAM! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
32fordboy Posted September 29, 2009 Share Posted September 29, 2009 My mind has officially been esploded. www.nicksfossils.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron E. Posted September 29, 2009 Share Posted September 29, 2009 I'll say Puerto Rico. ALWAYS bet on the underdog. When you tell me I'm correct, I'll reply with not only the scientific names, but what the early humans called them as well (in the native tongue, of course!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeD Posted September 29, 2009 Share Posted September 29, 2009 There goes my answer.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Smilodon Posted September 30, 2009 Share Posted September 30, 2009 (edited) Folks, I'm going to award the first "Attaboy for Effort" to 32fordboy who apparently reached the end of the Interwebz in his effort to answer the paleo trivia question only to have his head asplode. Puerto Rico??? I was joking and I hope you guys were too. Drumroll, please... Leisey Shell Pit south of Tampa, Florida Cuvieronius tropicus - gomphothere Mammut americanum - American mastodon Mammuthus columbi - Columbian mammoth and, And, AND, Mammuthus mysteryiensis - the earliest mammoth to reach North America Gomps and mastodons reached North America during the earliest Miocene some 24 million years ago. Mammoths reached North America during the earliest Pleistocene, some 1.9 mya and boy did they spread out fast, because they reached Tampa, Florida by 1.7 million years ago (the age of the Leisey Shell Pit fossils (early Irvingtonian.) This mammoth is generally considered to be Mammuthus meridionalis although for a while it was considered by some to be Mammuthus hayi although things still seem to be up in the air. There is so much more to the story, but that's the executive summary. Thanks for playing and WTG 32fordboy. Edited September 30, 2009 by Smilodon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
32fordboy Posted September 30, 2009 Share Posted September 30, 2009 No wonder we couldn't figure it out-it was such a mysteryiensis to us. You do an excellent job with your questions. www.nicksfossils.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Smilodon Posted September 30, 2009 Share Posted September 30, 2009 (edited) No wonder we couldn't figure it out-it was such a mysteryiensis to us. You do an excellent job with your questions. Thanks, 32fordboy, I work hard for my pay here. Edited September 30, 2009 by Smilodon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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